Claude Giroux - Hart Trophy
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He's having a great season, but how has he carried the Flyers when he doesn't even carry his own line? Also, when there's a 70pt Selke level C and an 80pt RW on your team, you definitely aren't "carrying" the team alone.
I think Hall and McKinnon have the "should win the Hart because they're carrying their team" vote locked up. The Hart will likely go to whoever leads the NHL in points as per usual but if it doesn't, I would expect one of those two to win it depending who qualifies for the playoffs (if both, McKinnon because he has more points.. that criteria is never going away).
It would just be hard to argue that Giroux means more to his team than those two players. He may be having a better year and does have more points but I don't think this angle will buy him Hart votes (especially with McKinnon having a better PPG and Hall having the exact same).
It would just be hard to argue that Giroux means more to his team than those two players. He may be having a better year and does have more points but I don't think this angle will buy him Hart votes (especially with McKinnon having a better PPG and Hall having the exact same).
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I'm not arguing G should get Hart, but if 80 point winger and 60+ point Dman on the same team is reason not to be named then why Malkin or MacKinnon should be considered?
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As a pens fab yeahhh. G has had a great year and it's good for the sport to see him back. He is helping carry the flyers to a good season , but some other players have done some thing a little more I think.
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G has had a huge year. I'd probably argue Couturier deserves it more, but it's a real tight race (for our team, at least).
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He will definitely get some consideration and deservedly so. There are almost a dozen guys this season that deserve attention for the Hart it’s hard to pick a clear winner.
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There's probably around 6 players to take into consideration, but Giroux would be near bottom of that list. For me it would go Hall, MacKinnon, Kopitar, McDavid, Malkin and Giroux. Although the last 3 you can flip flop really. I do believe my top 3 is set in stone.
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Don't kid yourself. Coots has had great season, but Giroux has been monster this year.
Why would he be ahead of Hall? He only has 7 more points than Hall in 6 more games with much more to work with. Hall has a 36 point lead on the Devils #2 guy. Giroux is only possibly ahead of Hall if the Devils fail to make the playoffs and even then it's iffy.
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What do you mean he hasn’t carried his own line? Do you really think coots is putting up these numbers sans Giroux?
Hartnell 37 goals
Raffl 20+ goals
Coots 30+ goals
All career higha with giroux. It’s not a coincidence. This is called a pattern
Look what Konecny was doing before he got put on that first line
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Wait so the guy leading the nhl in assists has no game winning goals? So the guy leading the nhl in assists since 2010-2011 is being judged on goal scoring? And how arbitary thing to judge him on. All goals matter
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Not at all. Giroux is a better pker, better at faceoffs, better playmaker , better on the pp,
Couts has 2 very elilte skills on offense, He is great carrying the puck into the zone, and great at keeping it in the zone. However those two things will not lead to points unless playing with other talented players. That is why he has really benefited from the play of giroux and konecny this year.
Couts has doubled his career high goal output this year. Find me another nhler who did that in their 7th year in the league.
Well Thornton who was the ultimate playmaker in his prime had 5 game winning goals in his MVP year and the following year had 6 game winning goals despite only scoring 22 all together. I just find it interesting that out of his 27 goals not one has been a game winner.
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It is a very arbitrary stat. it would be like judging a player on plus minus. Stamkos 27 goals 1 gw. It is not an important stat.
