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So then what's your basis for claiming the West is more physical?
Because it's slower and has more choking systems?
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So then what's your basis for claiming the West is more physical?
Because it's slower and has more choking systems?
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If you had a good defenseman that was made of paper mache, you have to be careful with his usage.
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Not necessarily, again, the Leafs "could" match it....but GMs may jyst feel that Benning's pricetag is just to high.
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Coaching decision and lack of PP time.
His TOI the previous year was higher, but they split the top pairing (Edler/Tanev) in order to balance the D.
Edler went with Stecher and Tanev got the short end of the stick in Sbisa, who isn't reliable enough to handle the minutes.
If you google TSN 1040 Vancouver. Under listen live; front page half way down you'll see...
Kuzma: Trading Tanev for 3rd overall makes sense, but how do you replace him?
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http://www.tsn.ca/radio/audio/kuzma...nse-but-how-do-canucks-replace-tanev-1.770974
Hmmm... his exact quote is "I'm now hearing that Dallas probably wants Tanev and both 2nd round picks [for the 3rd overall pick]"
The word "probably" makes the statement a bit confusing. Is he citing a source who said this is the Stars asking price? Or is he citing a source that is speculating about what the Stars asking price is?
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I think that's Vancouver's asking price. That's a steep price
This is a trade Benning has to hit a home run. He really screwed up some home run types of deals
So we can coviently just leave out the year he missed nearly all of. Cool. Tanev played in all the games he played in then, he didn't miss a single one! I did say every year Tanev has been a regular, right? If not that is key.
Missing games with bruises and the occasional break most concerning to me, considering how many shots he blocks. Concussions, habitual injuries, illnesses like infections, those are troubling. A number of games in non-playoff years would likely have had him on the ice too, and we've had two years of NHL protocol preventing him from playing games or practicing due to his teammates being sick. I still fail to see how the details of the time missed make him go from elite defenseman to glass statue of himself. If you block enough shots, eventually and statistically, you may need to recover from it. That's all this is.
Kuzma is likely the best source of Canuck insider info, so if that's what he's heard then it's likely accurate. The word "probably" to me means that Dallas is maybe not 100% set on that being the final price. If they want a 3rd piece in return, then maybe 55th overall and a prospect is good enough. I'd love for VAN to hold on to 33, not sure if giving all that up is an overpayment or not. Whether it is or isn't, walking away with Vilardi and Makar is a nice jump on the rebuild.
Here's another question. If they somehow get 3rd and 5th overall; would you rather have...
1) Vilardi & Makar (Assuming Heiskanen is gone at 5)
2) Heiskanen & Glass/Mittlestadt (Assuming Vilardi is gone at 5)
Is there another scenario I'm not thinking of? With them not interviewing Liljegren, I'm guessing he isn't in their plans.
1) Vilardi & Makar (Assuming Heiskanen is gone at 5)
2) Heiskanen & Glass/Mittlestadt (Assuming Vilardi is gone at 5)
Is there another scenario I'm not thinking of? With them not interviewing Liljegren, I'm guessing he isn't in their plans.
Well if Heiskanen is gone at 5, then that would mean he would be available at 3, and JB would be dumb not to pick Heiskanen at 3. And if he is gone before 3, then Hischier or Patrick is available, thus he has to pick him. To answer your question, easily number 2
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What about Tanev & both 2nds, for the 3rd, Niemi and the rights to Nichushkin?
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Exactly, you take BPA. Heiskanen has a safer floor but with Vilardi, Glass, your odds of getting a high-end center are higher.
Tanev is someone who could allow a Rielly or similar PMD really breakout and become a star.
That said the idea he's horribly offensively is kind of flawed. He doesn't screw up, or limit other players on the ice offensively. He just takes no prerogative and simply keeps possession and passes
That said the idea he's horribly offensively is kind of flawed. He doesn't screw up, or limit other players on the ice offensively. He just takes no prerogative and simply keeps possession and passes
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Absolutely.
Tanev moves the puck very well, both skating and passing.
On a more offensive team his points/60 would undoubtedly improve.
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Because Vancouver isn't in a position to take advantage of him being in his prime. It actually hurts them right now.
Whatever the best deal on the table is before the season starts, they should take it.
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How can Tanev average 70+ games when he's never played more then 70 games in a season? He has missed 72 games the last four years. That's almost a full seasons worth of games. Dallas isn't moving #3 in a trade for Tanev, unless it's #3+ for Tanev+#5. Tanev isn't worth a top 8 pick. Injury prone dman with 3 years left or a high end prospect on ELCs with 7+ years of team control. Not hard to understand this. Tanev isn't a Vlasic or Hjalmarsson level dman. He's a second pairing guy. If he was a top pairing dman his ice time would show that. And it clearly doesn't.
How can Tanev average 70+ games when he's never played more then 70 games in a season? He has missed 72 games the last four years. That's almost a full seasons worth of games. Dallas isn't moving #3 in a trade for Tanev, unless it's #3+ for Tanev+#5. Tanev isn't worth a top 8 pick. Injury prone dman with 3 years left or a high end prospect on ELCs with 7+ years of team control. Not hard to understand this. Tanev isn't a Vlasic or Hjalmarsson level dman. He's a second pairing guy. If he was a top pairing dman his ice time would show that. And it clearly doesn't.
I don't know if you know, but players don't have to be injured. They are injured or out when they are hurt, this isn't a routine.
It also seems like you don't know what you are talking about.
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Umm...as i recall, a deal was done for Ben Scrivens and a pick (2nd?) and ownership forced Nonis to pull out as they didn't want that contract.
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