Scintillating10
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Oilers have to improve at some point. With your netminding and defense that is not a playoff caliber team. How many prime years of McDavid and Leon you guys going to piss away.
LeBrun: Chiarot likely to be dealt and return a 1st round pick
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Scintillating10
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If only teams could trade future 1st rounders...someone should suggest that
Chiarot is much better then Scandella tho. They are similar in positioning and defensive awarness, but Chiarot is just on another level physically. He's also a better skater.
Didn't check but is Scandella deal expiring?
BlueOil
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scandella has 2 more years at 3.275 and is one year older than chiarot. perhaps the advanced stats n such show chiarot is better. watching him on ice, i hope the blues avoid paying that high of a price for an expiring UFA. again, i agree scandella likely has less value, but if chiarot can go for a first, the blues should be able to get more for scandella than expected.
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BlueOil
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no i recall the 2nd and a conditional 4th being exchanged. it was considered a "good" haul at the time for montreal at the time, but the blues desperately needed a defenseman after bouwmeester nearly died on ice.
Yes, I think you should expect a 2nd back for Scandella. However it might be easier to trade him in the summer because his deal isn't expiring. He's a good vet who can play tough minutes.
BlueOil
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if montreal can swing a first for chiarot, then i agree, the blues could get better results from trading scandella. like i said, i just don't see the value in chiarot watching him play, but please bump that market up for the rest of us.
When have you watched? Montreal is a shit show this year and he's one of the few who still hold his end. It's very hard to look any better on that team to be honest, half the guys have checked out.
If you watched him last year and the playoffs, you'd probably have a better understanding of what you'll get out of him.
BlueOil
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i think i've seen enough this season and in previous years to form a good opinion on what he offers, but i'm sure if quantified, it's less than montreal fans would prefer to weigh in on him. i miss plenty of games so perhaps i'm missing something. not claiming to be an expert on him or defense, just surprised he would fetch a first with what he brings when i've seen him play.
I don't know, maybe you overvalue late first and/or equivalent prospect. Chances are that pick never will be be a 2nd pair defenseman or equivalent level forward/goalie.
I believe it might have to do with the blues succes with mid-late first and the lack of success of the Habs , could be why our valuation differ
inthe6ix
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he started off incredibly strong this year but i agree the 1st rounder now is stretching it, but still a possibility
Doc5
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What? He's only been getting better since he's got here.
Tim Wallach
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Two years ago? He has been a beast for two consecutive playoffs, the last of which ended just in July of 2021. And this season, he has been the only reliable vet in a total trainwreck situation.
Almost all of their values have plunged, but Chiarot absolutely is worth it for a contender.
Scintillating10
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Friedman said three teams were bidding on Chiarot. Florida and St.Louis, I think the third team is Edmonton.
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Would you give a first rounder for him in deep draft ?
I can’t see it but maybe someone bites
DKH
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I don’t watch him a lot but thought he has gotten better with experience
yeh next 2 drafts considered deep - listen to lot of podcasts and subscribe to Red Line
if Gorton who I believe will do a very good job gets firsts good on him
