Chiarelli to STL?

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  1. frag2

    frag2 Registered User

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    You dont know **** what went down behind the scenes. Guy didn't even live in Edmonton after his first year and never around for pretty much anything,

    He was pure garbage that thought McDavid = automatic playoffs
     
  2. Stubu

    Stubu "Multi-Pass"

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    You have a point, it must have been a deeper issue in the org. But he was still pretty freaking awful doing trades and contracts.

    With some exceptions. So maybe he has value as a scout like a couple of previous posts suggest?
     
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    Hate to bring basketball into this but it reminded me of the cavs with Lebron at the start of his career.

    Just pure dependance on the player literally carrying some rotting corpses into the playoffs.
     
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    That's like saying the Holocaust never happened.
     
  5. holy

    holy Habs 2020 Cup Champs

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    I'd hire him as a consultant. Consult with him and do the exact opposite of what he tells you to do.
     
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    Peter Chiarelli got off way too easy by the Edmonton media.
     
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    Godwin's law took all of one page lol
     
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    what in the flying ****
     
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    St. Louis signed a deal with the devil: confirmed

    1 cup win, for a lifetime of poor decisions. It's like the Leafs in the 60's.
     
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    Load of nonsense excuses.

    Chiarelli also traded away Seguin, Wheeler, let Kessell walk for an offer sheet. Hall trade was his master stroke move because he had his golden boy Lucic lined up to sign to a ridiculous 7 year contract.

    Which makes it that much worse, not only he do that Hall eyes wide open, he did it so basically he could go get Lucic.

    The GM's job is to sign off on all major moves, not to have his hand held like a baby either. Scouts are supposed to help out on stuff like 2nd/3rd/4th round picks, not to tell you which major trades you should be making.

    He was woefully incompetent given all the assets he had to start with.
     
  11. DominicBoltsFan

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    yes, my general point here is that most gms suck
     
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    Some people get off on schadenfreude. I suppose it makes them feel better about themselves.
     
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    20 others Here for the hot takes

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    I'm confused. Even as a consultant, what does Chiarelli bring to the table?
    If you're an independent business consultant who has a history of being absolutely mediocre while being employed by companies and making extremely poor business ideas that lose money and hurt your competitive standing in the market, why should anyone hire you? I can't point to a single decision he made that somebody else could not have done better than he did. He continuously failed miserably in every step he took. This may be hyperbole, but HFBoards as a collective would have consistently done better.
     
  14. thestonedkoala

    thestonedkoala Everyone! PANIC!

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    HE WAS NEVER IN CONTENTION FOR THE WILD JOB.

    I think they chatted, but that was it. There was no serious dialog between the two of them.
     
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    Oof. From winning the Cup to having him?
     
  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Eff the Habs

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    He's CONSULTANT? OMG it's like it's not gonna affect the Blues at all because he'll do nothing of importance.
     
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    Good point. There are 2 moron GMs that said no, one for a terrible dman.
     
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    Coming up empty on the 2nd day of the draft again and again and again under Tambellini and MacTavish has had downstream effects on Edmonton's asset pool. Generate some middle pairing defensemen or middle 6 forwards internally and Chiarelli doesn't have to fill out the rest of the lineup via trade and free agency.

    There's a strong urge to attribute the successes or failures of an organization on a central executive. GMs are more reliant on circumstances out of their control than that. We've watched Jim Rutherford go from a GM that was principally responsible for a 9-year long playoff drought in Carolina to a guy that about to be inducted into the HOF for his work in Pittsburgh. Don Waddell was roundly considered to be an idiot this time last year for his work in Atlanta; Carolina had to fight to keep him from Minnesota a year later.

    What assets you inherit from your predecessors, how lucky you are with the lottery and most importantly, the effectiveness of your amateur scouts, are the defining "skills" of a GM, imo.
     
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    Started doubting the guy when I saw that video of him astutely trading Seguin. Most things he’s done since have turned doubt into certainty. Man, why ? Damn I hate consultants. They get paid so much for so little.
     
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    As soon as he gets power watch him try to trade Tarasenko for 4 ahl defensemen.
     
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    Llamamoto49 Irrelevant

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    Eberle > Strome > Spooner
    Hall for Larsson
    1st (Matt Barzal) + 2nd (traded up for Anthony Beavilleaur) for Griffin Reinhart
    Lucic signing
    Koskinen signing
    Caggiula for Manning
    3rd for Petrovic
     
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    Tyler Seguin
    Taylor Hall
    Barzal pick
    Jordan Eberle
    Rich Peverley


    for


    Ryan Strome
    Adam Larsson
    Griffin Reinhart
    Loui Eriksson
    Reilly Smith


    GTFO here. This guy is a sieve disguised as a GM.
     
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    Good - the Blues have done too much winning recently
     
  24. Hockey Tears

    Hockey Tears Wipe up those opinions, kiddo

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    If I was STL I wouldn't just worry about Chiarelli ruining future success. I would worry about losing the Stanley Cup you just won. He is that bad - he may recommend trading it.
     
  25. The Note

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    People are acting as if he’s the GM now. IIRC Chia was around towards the end of last season, too. That turned out alright.

    Ultimately he may be asked his opinion on things but it’s still Armstrong running the show and he’s done a pretty good job of that thus far.
     

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