Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by TheGoldenGod, Sep 11, 2019.
I honestly wouldn't let him in the arena if I was in charge of an organization. Not as a GM, a consultant, a skate sharpener, or a fan with a ticket on game-day.
Could be an incredibly valuable hire
If the Blues execs are in agreement on something, they can call in Chiarelli to get his thoughts on the matter. If he thinks it's a horrible idea, they're all good to proceed. If he agrees with them and thinks it's a good idea, then they'll know to reconsider.
Even if the execs aren't in agreement, they can use Chia as a decider of sorts. Whichever direction he thinks they should take, they'll do the opposite
Maybe Im thinking of somebody else but wasnt he a pretty good scout before becoming a GM?
umm....you are fresh off a Cup win and hire Chia as a consultant? Am I missing something?
I will rationalize this by assuming Chia has some blackmail leverage on the Blues.
Going from last place to the Cup doesn't feel like enough of a challenge anymore after last season.
Now they want to put in another gear and try to succeed against even worse odds.
Chiarelli hired by the Blues?
That's as unthinkable as the Super Bowl champion Patriots signing Antonio Brown.
God I wish Minnesota had hired him
say what you want about the NHL.
But damn do they have great job security.
Consultant oooon ... how to massively bone up almost every move you make?
Good move STL.
Honestly, it’s not that crazy. He just needs a guy above him to tell him when he’s being stupid. Neely didn’t do it in Boston, and he was given full autonomy in Edmonton. As a consultant, you can take his good ideas without having to listen to everything he comes up with.
For example, he got us Patrick Maroon for a 4th (and a bust to even out contracts), and he scored 52 goals for us in 2 seasons. He then moved Maroon for a pick, and used that pick to get Marody, who went over PPG in the AHL last year as a rookie, and has a legit shot at being a top 6 forward. That’s a hell of a return for a mid round pick.
You listen to him when he tells you those things, and ignore him when he tells you to trade for Manning. It was pretty obvious for the most part when he was making a bad trade
Breaking news: Vladimir Tarasenko traded to the Sabres for Okposo, Hunwick, and Sobotka
"The trade is ONE FOR ONE"
The Chia hate is so overblown.
It's really not tho
Nah it really is. That organization had been a tire fire for years before he even got hired. GM's do not act alone, they rely on their core in the office. Whether their assistants, presidents, scouts, etc. You think Chia said "f*** it, let's do Hall for Larsson" without asking his pro scouts and assistants? You think they traded the 16th OA pick without consulting their scouts on who was there and what the potential of that D was? He didn't run these trades past the suits who "know how to win"?
Of course not. And that same core exists today. Did he do an amazing job? No of course not. But Oilers fans have been great at making him into the scape goat for every failure the organization has done in recent memory. When the reality is, the issue is a lot deeper than that.
Let's not forget Oilers fans were even more hyped when Chia was hired than Holland.
I'm sure he can help them go another 50 years without a cup
No it isn't
not even close.
"Hey Chia, would you make this trade? Yes?"
puts hand over phone
"Nah lets keep him."
id be willing to entertain that if it hadnt been leaked that chia offered hall for ceci and hall for ristolainen before getting a team to bite on hall for larsson
Armstrong: “Hey Pete what do you think of this guy?”
Chiarelli “Great player, we should go after him”
Armstrong to the team “After further analysis we will go another direction”
Let's not forget the Lucic, Russell and Koskinen signings. And who's in charge of hiring the staff that you are excusing Chiarelli for leaning on?
That makes those GM's even worse than him then.
Insane. Once you're in, you're in for life. Doesnt matter how awful you are.
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