Chiarelli to STL?

Filthy Dangles

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Beauner

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Could be an incredibly valuable hire

If the Blues execs are in agreement on something, they can call in Chiarelli to get his thoughts on the matter. If he thinks it's a horrible idea, they're all good to proceed. If he agrees with them and thinks it's a good idea, then they'll know to reconsider.

Even if the execs aren't in agreement, they can use Chia as a decider of sorts. Whichever direction he thinks they should take, they'll do the opposite
 

D1az

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umm....you are fresh off a Cup win and hire Chia as a consultant? Am I missing something?

I will rationalize this by assuming Chia has some blackmail leverage on the Blues.

Going from last place to the Cup doesn't feel like enough of a challenge anymore after last season.
Now they want to put in another gear and try to succeed against even worse odds.
 

The Nuge

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Honestly, it’s not that crazy. He just needs a guy above him to tell him when he’s being stupid. Neely didn’t do it in Boston, and he was given full autonomy in Edmonton. As a consultant, you can take his good ideas without having to listen to everything he comes up with.

For example, he got us Patrick Maroon for a 4th (and a bust to even out contracts), and he scored 52 goals for us in 2 seasons. He then moved Maroon for a pick, and used that pick to get Marody, who went over PPG in the AHL last year as a rookie, and has a legit shot at being a top 6 forward. That’s a hell of a return for a mid round pick.

You listen to him when he tells you those things, and ignore him when he tells you to trade for Manning. It was pretty obvious for the most part when he was making a bad trade
 

Kamiccolo

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It's really not tho

Nah it really is. That organization had been a tire fire for years before he even got hired. GM's do not act alone, they rely on their core in the office. Whether their assistants, presidents, scouts, etc. You think Chia said "f*** it, let's do Hall for Larsson" without asking his pro scouts and assistants? You think they traded the 16th OA pick without consulting their scouts on who was there and what the potential of that D was? He didn't run these trades past the suits who "know how to win"?

Of course not. And that same core exists today. Did he do an amazing job? No of course not. But Oilers fans have been great at making him into the scape goat for every failure the organization has done in recent memory. When the reality is, the issue is a lot deeper than that.

Let's not forget Oilers fans were even more hyped when Chia was hired than Holland.
 

VoluntaryDom

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Nah it really is. That organization had been a tire fire for years before he even got hired. GM's do not act alone, they rely on their core in the office. Whether their assistants, presidents, scouts, etc. You think Chia said "**** it, let's do Hall for Larsson" without asking his pro scouts and assistants? You think they traded the 16th OA pick without consulting their scouts on who was there and what the potential of that D was? He didn't run these trades past the suits who "know how to win"?

Of course not. And that same core exists today. Did he do an amazing job? No of course not. But Oilers fans have been great at making him into the scape goat for every failure the organization has done in recent memory. When the reality is, the issue is a lot deeper than that.

Let's not forget Oilers fans were even more hyped when Chia was hired than Holland.
id be willing to entertain that if it hadnt been leaked that chia offered hall for ceci and hall for ristolainen before getting a team to bite on hall for larsson
 
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Leafs87

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Armstrong: “Hey Pete what do you think of this guy?”

Chiarelli “Great player, we should go after him”

Armstrong to the team “After further analysis we will go another direction”
 

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Nah it really is. That organization had been a tire fire for years before he even got hired. GM's do not act alone, they rely on their core in the office. Whether their assistants, presidents, scouts, etc. You think Chia said "**** it, let's do Hall for Larsson" without asking his pro scouts and assistants? You think they traded the 16th OA pick without consulting their scouts on who was there and what the potential of that D was? He didn't run these trades past the suits who "know how to win"?

Of course not. And that same core exists today. Did he do an amazing job? No of course not. But Oilers fans have been great at making him into the scape goat for every failure the organization has done in recent memory. When the reality is, the issue is a lot deeper than that.

Let's not forget Oilers fans were even more hyped when Chia was hired than Holland.

Let's not forget the Lucic, Russell and Koskinen signings. And who's in charge of hiring the staff that you are excusing Chiarelli for leaning on?
 

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