Confirmed Trade: [CHI/MTL] Andrew Shaw and 2021 7th for 2020 2nd, 2021 3rd, 2020 7th

[crazyhawk]

Habs owned the Hawks here. Overpriced over the hill Shaw.

Ha!
Overpriced ... not really given his recent output.
Over the hill ... what is he 27/8?! Maybe a little battle worn is all. Time will tell though ...

And you absolutely do have to look at the original trade to see the ultimate value of Shaw between these two teams. The cost of Shaw in Montreal for these past three years is Debrincat.
Now the cost to have Shaw back in Chicago will have to wait to see what the 2nd and 3rd pick will bring.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

The cost of Shaw in Montreal for these past three years is Debrincat.

Nope.

It's a pick used to pick Debrincart.

Who knows who the Canadiens would have picked ?

Who knows if the pick would not have been traded for someone else ?

PS: Thanks for Danault and Romanov (I know, I know, who knows who the hawks would have picked).

 

[AmericanDream]

Nope.

It's a pick used to pick Debrincart.

Who knows who the Canadiens would have picked ?

Who knows if the pick would not have been traded for someone else ?

PS: Thanks for Danault and Romanov (I know, I know, who knows who the hawks would have picked).

lol

 

[Toene]

I think it was a fair trade. We had a try with Shaw and he somewhat delivered. Habs felt they saw enough and recouped some assets while shipping to place he once had success. Let's remember he had a great pace this year and was a key cog of our forwars group. But I'm thrilled to see what Timmins willde with the pick.

Fair trade all in all.

 

[AmericanDream]

28 is the new 58

wanna place a $20 bet that he'll have a **** season this year?

i'm putting his ceiling at 40pts this year, lets do this! legit bet

lol

 

[Hostile Offer]

lol

Literally everything he said was correct though.

 

[Torontoborn]

Gardiner at 6 mil >> than Ceci at 4.5. Hell Gardiner at 6 mil > Ceci for free.

And which one has a contract for next year.

 

[crazyhawk]

Nope.

It's a pick used to pick Debrincart.

Who knows who the Canadiens would have picked ?

Who knows if the pick would not have been traded for someone else ?

PS: Thanks for Danault and Romanov (I know, I know, who knows who the hawks would have picked).

Hawks traded away their warrior in Shaw ... in compensation they got Debrincat and Chad Krys
Canadians traded away this same warrior albeit a little more worn and they will get ... a 2nd and 3rd rounder TBD.
Pretty simple really.
At any rate it's good to have Shawzy back!
Best of luck to the Habs.

 

[chapeau]

Literally everything he said was correct though.

Sure, but if Shaw gets 12-15 goals to go along iwth 35-40 points, I'm sure Hawks fans will be happy. For a gritty player that can move up and down the middle 6, 3.9M is reasonable. Good trade for both sides IMO.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Sure, but if Shaw gets 12-15 goals to go along iwth 35-40 points, I'm sure Hawks fans will be happy. For a gritty player that can move up and down the middle 6, 3.9M is reasonable. Good trade for both sides IMO.

Not exactly what I was arguing but absolutely the Hawks should be happy with this. Value is not bad for the Habs either but it's a little questionable if we don't get anyone to replace Shaw, which gets more likely every day and Nick Cousins is not that guy.

 

[Runner77]

How is that relevant to this trade?

You can choose to look at this trade as a self-contained unit or in a wider continuum.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Not exactly what I was arguing but absolutely the Hawks should be happy with this. Value is not bad for the Habs either but it's a little questionable if we don't get anyone to replace Shaw, which gets more likely every day and Nick Cousins is not that guy.

Hawks still hadn't replaced Shaw, 3 years later.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Hawks still hadn't replaced Shaw, 3 years later.

And you've won zero playoff games in that time he was gone, weird how that works. Seriously though, health issues aside Shaw gradually improved every year he was with the Habs. In the pre-Julien era we mostly got the maniac Shaw who only dragged us down, then he toned it down in his second year which made him sort of useful and last year he really broke out in the Domi line and was playing the best hockey of his career.

If Shaw manages to be healthy he should by all accounts be a better player than he was when the Hawks last had him. Hope it works out for you guys.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Hawks traded away their warrior in Shaw ... in compensation they got Debrincat and Chad Krys
Canadians traded away this same warrior albeit a little more worn and they will get ... a 2nd and 3rd rounder TBD.
Pretty simple really.
At any rate it's good to have Shawzy back!
Best of luck to the Habs.

At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter what the picks were or going to be. Shaw value didn’t go up or changed because the Hawks drafted Debrincat with one of the picks. Good for you guys that you got a hell of a player. It could’ve been a bust too. The value are nearly identical to me

 

[Karl Eriksson]

You can choose to look at this trade as a self-contained unit or in a wider continuum.

In that case it’s a steal, because it’s a good return for gasses and particles that amassed into planet earth after the Big Bang.

 

[Steve Shutt]

Strange feeling that years from now the winner of this trade will be determined by one of those exchanged 7th rounders being successful

 

[Runner77]

In that case it’s a steal, because it’s a good return for gasses and particles that amassed into planet earth after the Big Bang.

Sadly, those gasses and particles also begat toxic byproducts.

Moving on.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

lol

lol

Limited vocabulary ?

 

[Steeler23]

Limited vocabulary ?

lol

 

[CauZuki]

I personally think if he can stay healthy and play smart (no cheap shots or useless fights) he can be a very useful player at a very reasonable price point. He also has some complimentary offensive talent when he plays with skilled players (as he showed last year and in CHI). He can ride shotgun on a line with a strong/talented duo which imo is not a given talent.

I wish him the best in Chicago , he was well liked here despite his poor health at times.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Hawks traded away their warrior in Shaw ... in compensation they got Debrincat and Chad Krys
(...)

They didn't "get" Debrincat and Krys.

They drafted them with picks obtained in the trade.

A world of difference...

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

lol

Is it contagious ?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

lol

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

lol

It is contagious !

I knew it !

 

[HOPE]

Not long ago, shaw was a trash contract and overpaid, suddenly he’s affordable. Personally i’m glad we traded him and got decent value, never liked the player in chicago, neither as a Montreal. Good that chicago Thrilled to have him back, everyone is happy.