solid contribution, thanksWait who ?
Style is different, but they definitely both read the game very well and both drive plays. I'd agree mangiapane can't dangle like Gaudreau.He reminds me more of Matt Zuccarello
Don’t see the Gaudreau skating. He’s good though
The Flames get a skilled young forward to help their team now who can play LW/RW as required.
The Pens get a skilled young LW who had trouble scoring in the NHL last year but produced well in the AHL and is waiver-exempt so he can develop there until he's ready.
Mangi didn’t have trouble scoring in the NHL last season. He was played 6 minutes a night in a 4th line role with fringe NHLers.
He made that line look dangerous. Just another reason Gulutzan had to be fired.
solid contribution, thanks
He said why in the OP......So is this proposal... My question shouldn't have been who, but why?
so dude who proved he can be a bottom 6 player at the NHL vs dude who hasnt shown he can be an NHLer (and based on his size and skillset seems like one of those career AHL scoring champ types)
Yes, he did have trouble scoring in the NHL last season. That's objectively true.
What you're doing is providing a rationale for his scoring trouble.
No, objectively speaking, the NHL sample size of Mangiapane is entirely inconclusive.
He's not "very small" at all, I played golf in a group behind him and I'm guess he's close to 5'11, 190lbs, a very strong looking young man, along with having some nice skill he also plays the game with an edge. Zero chance I trade him for SimonHe's a great AHL player. Very small. Has yet to see a true NHL opportunity. Shades of Gaudreau.
Maybe his head and neck are just small. He looks pretty small on the ice. If what you are saying is true though, that makes me pretty excited for him as a prospect.He's not "very small" at all, I played golf in a group behind him and I'm guess he's close to 5'11, 190lbs, a very strong looking young man, along with having some nice skill he also plays the game with an edge. Zero chance I trade him for Simon
Sounds like Simon is worth more based on your descriptions.
Most of those numbers come from the players first camp at 18 years old. I saw him at summer development camp a few years ago and he was far smaller.Maybe his head and neck are just small. He looks pretty small on the ice. If what you are saying is true though, that makes me pretty excited for him as a prospect.
He's listed at 5'10'' and 184 lbs. Is he the first NHL player to list smaller than actual?
Lol Ok. He is 21 and was leading the AHL in points per game for most of the season.
But sure... lots of guys that are 21 leading the AHL in points per game fizzle out and don’t become NHL players.. oh wait that almost has never happened in the last ten years.
You sound knowledgeable
You are asking a Flames fan if he's heard of a player involved in the Iginla trade? I like Agostino personally, but he never had a comparable season to Mangiapane's 21 year old season until he was 24. Context matters. While I am nowhere near as high on Mangiapane as many other Flames fan, comparing him to Kenny Agostino doesn't exactly make a ton of sense.Have you heard of Kenny Agostino? 26 years old, 22 NHL GP, 6P - 241 AHL GP, 236 P. I believe that he was the leading AHL scorer in 2016-17 with 83 P for the Chicago Wolves. Now with his 4th NHL team (Montréal) because he doesn't have what it takes to make a line up in a scoring role on a decent team.
Maybe he gets a chance to play with the Habs, but that's more about their roster problems than his ability to play in the NHL - Calgary, St Louis and Boston all let him leave after 1 year.
Have you heard of Kenny Agostino? 26 years old, 22 NHL GP, 6P - 241 AHL GP, 236 P. I believe that he was the leading AHL scorer in 2016-17 with 83 P for the Chicago Wolves. Now with his 4th NHL team (Montréal) because he doesn't have what it takes to make a line up in a scoring role on a decent team.
Maybe he gets a chance to play with the Habs, but that's more about their roster problems than his ability to play in the NHL - Calgary, St Louis and Boston all let him leave after 1 year.