The Flames and Habs are similar in terms of draft results. Not great in the 1st round, but they have success in later rounds. We have guys like Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Kylington, Andersson, Dube, Ruzicka and Wolf all taken later. Other than Dube and Ruzicka all of these guys would return a 1st+. I'd say a guy taken late who puts up the results Kerins has was a good pick.
What is your point with last paragraph? Q league scoring doesnt translate in NHL?
I'm talking the NHLE numbers for each league. The Q has a lower points translation rate than the W or O. This is a fact, not an opinion. It has nothing to do with the talent each league produces. It's also silly to put Drouin in a group with MacKinnon and Huberdeau.
I agree with this. I'm not saying guys like Kerins or Poirier are NHL bound. Most likely neither player makes it. But they've given themselves a chance with their production and improvement. Guys like Boltmann (2019 2nd round pick) never had a chance.
We should honestly thank Vegas for winning the Eichel sweepstakes then. Never would have got Toffoli without that
Lekhs on pace for 30 goals. Half the caphit and adds speed. Game is going speed and skill.
I don’t blame you Toffoli had a career year with the Habs and you guys bought high on him.
The only possible reason I can see to "hate this trade" is if you are still salty about not getting Eichel. And view spending that ~4M extra cap on Toffoli after as a downgrade and a failure. That price to get Toffoli was perfectly fine and I would gladly pay it again. We didn't loose any top prospects and the pick is late.
Paying all those assets for a slow and aging winger when we need speed up front was a bad move.
Toffoli's skating is wacky but his speed is average. This seems odd to me, so you would rather Calgary didn't address the biggest hole on their team and just did nothing?
Yeah no... the guy has lead boots. Regularly behind the pace at ES.
He ended up on the 3rd line because we didn't have a legitimate 2nd line. The problem is so far from being Toffoli. The issue is Backlund - Coleman should be a shutdown 3rd line, and Toffoli - Mangiapane - top 6 center should be the 2nd line if we wanted to contend
He ended up on the third line because he had 0 chemistry with Mangiapane and Backlund and wasn't doing jack squat at ES.
Yes Backlund and Coleman have excellent chemistry, I already said that. But they are way better suited for a 3rd line shutdown role. Toffoli not fitting as well on that specific line is beside the point, because is a world where Calgary is competing Backlund isn't forced to play 2C.
Value-wise it’s fine. Toffoli has been solid in the top 6. The trade would look better if the Flames were better as a team, but that’s not on Toffoli. He’s lived up to his end of the deal.
