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Viqsi

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So here I was thinking I'd just minimize board participation on my part until the forum changeover, as I didn't want to get discussions mixed into a "content will vanish" Flag Day.

Oops. :(
 

Halberdier

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Btw. his name really is just Bjorkstrand, and they don't even have letter ö in Danish, it would be ø. But it's just a plain old boring "o" anyways ;)

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Ah, I stand corrected. Though it's much more complicated than you think:

Björkstrand is Swedish and means "birch beach". It could be also Norwegian, but then it would have that 'ø', which in turn is just Norwegian / Danish way to type letter 'ö'.

If it was Danish name, it would be "Birkestrand", not "Bjørkstrand" or "Bjorkstrand".

But as I did dig deeper on the subject, his great great grand parents were from Sweden and Norway (and dad is American), so I guess those "dots over o" were removed back then in Minnesota or thereabouts.

It's probably not a surprise that many Swedish, Finnish and even some Danish sources call Oliver Bjorkstrand Oliver Björkstrand (which makes sense as it actually means something and is not just a bunch of letters stuck together), but that's probably about 100+ years old form...

Most people living in America eventually submits to the limited alphabet like Sergej Fyodorov (or Fyodoroff) who officially changed his name to Fedorov. (Poor Semyon fella was called "Semen" in NA..)
 

VT

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Ah, I stand corrected. Though it's much more complicated than you think:

Björkstrand is Swedish and means "birch beach". It could be also Norwegian, but then it would have that 'ø', which in turn is just Norwegian / Danish way to type letter 'ö'.

If it was Danish name, it would be "Birkestrand", not "Bjørkstrand" or "Bjorkstrand".

But as I did dig deeper on the subject, his great great grand parents were from Sweden and Norway (and dad is American), so I guess those "dots over o" were removed back then in Minnesota or thereabouts.

It's probably not a surprise that many Swedish, Finnish and even some Danish sources call Oliver Bjorkstrand Oliver Björkstrand (which makes sense as it actually means something and is not just a bunch of letters stuck together), but that's probably about 100+ years old form...

Most people living in America eventually submits to the limited alphabet like Sergej Fyodorov (or Fyodoroff) who officially changed his name to Fedorov. (Poor Semyon fella was called "Semen" in NA..)
I doubt Fyodorov changed his name to Fedorov. Because although his name in Russian is Фёдоров, Russian can write the font "Ё" like "Е". So he simly used the second font. Btw there`re many mistakes. For example Chara. It`s bad. Slovak Chára is Khara if right pronunciation. Černák - Chernak and not Cernak. The surname Konecny`s ancestors was probably Konečný - Konechny and not Konecny. I think Roslovic is Croatian/Serbian surname so if yes, his pronunciation should be Roslovich. Etc, etc.
 

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I doubt Fyodorov changed his name to Fedorov. Because although his name in Russian is Фёдоров, Russian can write the font "Ё" like "Е". So he simly used the second font. Btw there`re many mistakes. For example Chara. It`s bad. Slovak Chára is Khara if right pronunciation. Černák - Chernak and not Cernak. The surname Konecny`s ancestors was probably Konečný - Konechny and not Konecny. I think Roslovic is Croatian/Serbian surname so if yes, his pronunciation should be Roslovich. Etc, etc.

I might be wrong about S. Fyodorov, but that's something I heard back then. And yes, Muricans typically just write all letters that have dots & whatnots just without those little markings like if they didn't matter.

For obvious reasons, Semyon Varlamov is tranlittered as such and not Semen Varlamov (akin to Fedorov/Fyodorov)...

Interesting insight about that Roslovich dude. I have been once in Croatia and I love that country.

/ End of off topic, I promise...
 

Viqsi

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I doubt Fyodorov changed his name to Fedorov. Because although his name in Russian is Фёдоров, Russian can write the font "Ё" like "Е". So he simly used the second font. Btw there`re many mistakes. For example Chara. It`s bad. Slovak Chára is Khara if right pronunciation. Černák - Chernak and not Cernak. The surname Konecny`s ancestors was probably Konečný - Konechny and not Konecny. I think Roslovic is Croatian/Serbian surname so if yes, his pronunciation should be Roslovich. Etc, etc.
Very probable; we've got a lot of those, especially in and around Cleveland and the rest of northeastern Ohio. They're not as common in Columbus per se but they're still around.

I just assume the pronunciation got mutated by an ancestor somewhere along the way. That tends to happen around here. (We're reasonably certain, for example, that my mother's maiden surname (and part of my hyphenated last name) got the Ellis Island Special treatment, but don't know exactly what it used to be...)
 

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I doubt Fyodorov changed his name to Fedorov. Because although his name in Russian is Фёдоров, Russian can write the font "Ё" like "Е". So he simly used the second font. Btw there`re many mistakes. For example Chara. It`s bad. Slovak Chára is Khara if right pronunciation. Černák - Chernak and not Cernak. The surname Konecny`s ancestors was probably Konečný - Konechny and not Konecny. I think Roslovic is Croatian/Serbian surname so if yes, his pronunciation should be Roslovich. Etc, etc.
How about the names with r in them, such as Bednar or Dvorak?
 

VT

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How about the names with r in them, such as Bednar or Dvorak?
Bednar can be "Bednář" (it is Czech surname). Ř reads like RZH but you must read it very speed. See the article more precisely.
Dvorak - "Dvořák"
Á, Í - read long
Still Knazko - Slovak Kňažko right - Knazhko. But it isn`t precisely too because "Ň" must be read softly.
Slavic languages aren`t easy... :)
 

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Everything I know about Czech language I learned from this:


"Jóžin z Bážin".... to teda hej ... :laugh::laugh::laugh: But Ivan Mládek is excelent. His 2008 vaccination scene was oracular. But he has a lot of great ones.
btw, subtitles are Polish
As I see I must learn you a Slovak song. ;)
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I'm very interested in which line he will play in. Especially if Max Domi's return draws nearer.
 
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"Jóžin z Bážin".... to teda hej ... :laugh::laugh::laugh: But Ivan Mládek is excelent. His 2008 vaccination scene was oracular. But he has a lot of great ones.
btw, subtitles are Polish
As I see I must learn you a Slovak song. ;)

1) I knew about the subtitles, I meant that as part of the joke.

2) Just any excuse to post this video.

3) Would love to learn a Slovak song!
 
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VT

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if similar music style like Ivan Mládek:



Lojzo (read Loyzo) had many excelent, cheerful songs..., they took music with humour. :) And some prophetic. I very like that group.

EDIT:
If you are interested, an excellent film from the times of the USSR from 1967 based on the short story "Viy" by Nikolai Gogol. I recommend it to you. English subtitles
 
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Viqsi

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You yes but I don`t know if all who would wanted to know it. A song in another thread. ;)
I dunno. People ask me if I know any languages other than English and I have to say "do programming languages count? I can write Python like a native..."
 

Double-Shift Lasse

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if similar music style like Ivan Mládek:



Lojzo (read Loyzo) had many excelent, cheerful songs..., they took music with humour. :) And some prophetic. I very like that group.

EDIT:
If you are interested, an excellent film from the times of the USSR from 1967 based on the short story "Viy" by Nikolai Gogol. I recommend it to you. English subtitles


Ha those are good tunes! I am singing the melodies in my head even though I don’t understand the words.
 
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VT

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Ha those are good tunes! I am singing the melodies in my head even though I don’t understand the words.
Btw original the first song here

but I like Lojzo version more. Although it doesn't change the fact that it has great songs. And "Mucha Tse Tse (Fly Tse Tse)" is prophetic.
 

spintheblackcircle

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I doubt Fyodorov changed his name to Fedorov. Because although his name in Russian is Фёдоров, Russian can write the font "Ё" like "Е". So he simly used the second font. Btw there`re many mistakes. For example Chara. It`s bad. Slovak Chára is Khara if right pronunciation. Černák - Chernak and not Cernak. The surname Konecny`s ancestors was probably Konečný - Konechny and not Konecny. I think Roslovic is Croatian/Serbian surname so if yes, his pronunciation should be Roslovich. Etc, etc.

My father's side is from Lithuania and when my grandfather came over, my last name went from 10 letters to 6.
 
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spintheblackcircle

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Congrats.

If you think buying a home is stressful, try owning a home. I spent a bunch of money last week to get a major kitchen appliance repaired.

Yeap, it's a 2005 build, only 1 owner with all the major items either new or still under warranty a while.

The major issue was the heat pump. Since my place is on the top floor, the unit has to be on roof and I would have to pay for a crane since it wont fit in the elevator, but it was just updated in 2019.
 
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