CAR vs SJ - Legendary Corsi Battle on Friday

[Quid Pro Clowe]

didn't burns lift foegele's stick into dells face? if foegele's stick wasn't there, burns would have decapitated dell himself

He did. It was a good no-call.

San Jose was better in the 1st and Carolina dominated the last 45 minutes. Glad they got a point out of it.

 

[MNNumbers]

^^^^^

Thanks for the info. There is far too much information in your chart for me to digest. And, yes, I am remembering now that it's SHOT ATTEMPTS, not SOG, that is important.

And, in general, I would definitely believe that one such 'advanced stat' like shot attempts will not the the be-all and end-all of analysis.

And, that's what makes this thread and the CAR-SJS game so amusing to me.

 

[Alwalys]

Is it possible that they might have been gassed, not from the road trip, but from racing up and down the ice all night with an even younger team that also likes to fly? Sharks were icing the puck an awfully lot at the end there. Which doesn't take away from your point that the road trip wasn't to blame . . .

Icing prevents having to race around with the other team. The problem was the sharks couldn't win a faceoff to save their lives last night so they couldn't get a good start after an icing. The first possession battle of every shift.

 

[Roboturner913]

Who in the world is Warren Foegele?

he's a 25 year old organ donor from Honolulu, Hawaii

 

[tarheelhockey]

Clearly. He has the 5th-best Corsi Differential in the entire league and I've never heard of him. You don't get much more underrated than that. If he keeps this up, everyone will soon know the name of Warren Fo... what is it again... oh, Foegele.

He came into the league very quietly at the end of last season, and had an impact from literally his first shift onward. It’s too early to say just what level of player he is, but he sure looks like a guy who has a good career ahead of him. At a minimum he’s a high energy guy with speed to burn and enough skill to convert that into points.

I think it’s fair to say he’s one of the key cogs who is driving this change of fortune for the Canes. Aho breaking out as a C is huge, Ferland bringing a different element of physicality with scoring touch is huge, CDH stabilizing the defensive pairs is huge, and then I’d put Foegele’s emergence as a top-6 winger out of left field as the next most important thing.

 

[Osprey]

He came into the league very quietly at the end of last season, and had an impact from literally his first shift onward. It’s too early to say just what level of player he is, but he sure looks like a guy who has a good career ahead of him. At a minimum he’s a high energy guy with speed to burn and enough skill to convert that into points.

I think it’s fair to say he’s one of the key cogs who is driving this change of fortune for the Canes. Aho breaking out as a C is huge, Ferland bringing a different element of physicality with scoring touch is huge, CDH stabilizing the defensive pairs is huge, and then I’d put Foegele’s emergence as a top-6 winger out of left field as the next most important thing.

It's nice to hear that he's actually good. To be clear, my original question was rhetorical and I wasn't knocking him. I was just having a little fun with the fact that he's barely known and is near the top in this particular stat. If anything, I was poking fun at the stat.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It's nice to hear that he's actually good. To be clear, my original question was rhetorical and I wasn't knocking him. I was just having a little fun with the fact that he's barely known and is near the top in this particular stat. If anything, I was poking fun at the stat.

Yeah that’s totally fair, I mean this guy has come out of left field even for Canes fans. Only a dedicated fan would have even known who he was coming into this season. None of us really know what to do with this either

 

[Mose]

The comment about Dell being injured and Canes' fans cheering has been properly addressed. However, there was a follow-up comment that has since been deleted about Dundon. As a Canes fan, I want to address that.

If you understand that my username is an homage to the singer/songwriter said to have "the best bulls*** detector," then you will understand what I am going to say.

I love the Canes. But I don't have a problem admitting that Dundon made his money taking advantage of people--including those serving our country. He is hard to admire. That doesn't less my joy at watching Aho become a superstar, watching Foegele play maniacal hockey, the post-game celebrations. The Canes are fun and getting pretty darn good.

Back to Dundon. I think my own BS detector is decent. I knew Elizabeth Holmes was a scam artist. Dundon is likely a combination of Holmes and Jimmy Cayne. My guess is the following statement is still a 50/50 proposition sometime during the 2020-21 season.

Tom Dundon: "I love this team. Owning them has been a highlight of my life. However, my children (who I try to bring to most of the games) are all now school age and need me to be in Texas. There was a clause when I bought the team that says I can sell after three years. It is with great sadness that in the best interest of my family that today I exercise that clause."

I could be wrong. But the facts that Dundon didn't buy 100% ownership, that the clause exists, and that his history shows no concern for his customers makes me think it is still possible.

 

[LakeLivin]

The comment about Dell being injured and Canes' fans cheering has been properly addressed. However, there was a follow-up comment that has since been deleted about Dundon. As a Canes fan, I want to address that.

If you understand that my username is an homage to the singer/songwriter said to have "the best bulls*** detector," then you will understand what I am going to say.

I love the Canes. But I don't have a problem admitting that Dundon made his money taking advantage of people--including those serving our country. He is hard to admire. That doesn't less my joy at watching Aho become a superstar, watching Foegele play maniacal hockey, the post-game celebrations. The Canes are fun and getting pretty darn good.

Back to Dundon. I think my own BS detector is decent. I knew Elizabeth Holmes was a scam artist. Dundon is likely a combination of Holmes and Jimmy Cayne. My guess is the following statement is still a 50/50 proposition sometime during the 2020-21 season.

Tom Dundon: "I love this team. Owning them has been a highlight of my life. However, my children (who I try to bring to most of the games) are all now school age and need me to be in Texas. There was a clause when I bought the team that says I can sell after three years. It is with great sadness that in the best interest of my family that today I exercise that clause."

I could be wrong. But the facts that Dundon didn't buy 100% ownership, that the clause exists, and that his history shows no concern for his customers makes me think it is still possible.

Moving the Canes would still need to be approved by the league, right? Looking at the youth who comprise the Canes core (Aho, Svech, Necas, Turbo, Slavin, Pesce, maybe Fox or Bean) I think it's much more likely than not that the team will be solid contenders by then. Not only has the area shown that it will support winning hockey, it's one of the fastest growing regions in the country, so even more potential fans to hook than 10 years ago when the franchise was drawing well. Add that to the NHLs demonstrated commitment to growing hockey in even struggling markets (Panthers, Yotes) and I don't see the league allowing a successful Canes franchise to move.

Dundon could still sell his interest, but he certainly didn't buy in at a discount, so you've got to wonder how much of an opportunity/ reason he'd have to "cash out" at that point. Plus, he's said his oldest kid is looking at a local university (gotta think Duke?), so there's a good chance he'll have family in the area at that point.

Bottom line is that I'm optimistic about the future and not too worried about the Canes future in Raleigh. Of course, others may disagree.