Post-Game Talk: Caps vs Coyotes Oct 29

[maacoshark]

You disagree. Let's hear your thoughts.

 

[maacoshark]

He had a few good looking saves though. I thought he played well!

He played well enough. Didn't make any mistakes.

 

[Calicaps]

Hate to nitpick but Oshie has 6 pts in 7 games including 4 goals, that's a bit better still. We need other lines to contribute more to have continued success. Hopefully Backstrom's return solves this issue

right. Forgot 77 had a hatty the other night. My bad. And I don't disagree that we need more from Mantha, but he's contributing. There are surely other guys bringing less to the table on both sides of the puck.

 

[traparatus]

right. Forgot 77 had a hatty the other night. My bad. And I don't disagree that we need more from Mantha, but he's contributing. There are surely other guys bringing less to the table on both sides of the puck.

I think it's just hard to overlook the massive price paid. It's the kind of price that makes you expect a player to completely take over a game every once a while. That hasn't happened.

I think if you abstract Mantha's play from the Manta trade, he's been fine. Not great but not poor either. Mostly I'm reserving judgement until Backstrom comes back. They looked very promising together.

 

[txpd]

You disagree. Let's hear your thoughts.

There's no point. The Capitals wouldnt think of going forward without Hathaway. That line is the group Laviolette trusts the most. Its well documented. That one or more of those players dont belong in the league is silly. Unless, of course, you think Laviolette and by extension MacLellan are idiots.

 

[txpd]

I think it's just hard to overlook the massive price paid. It's the kind of price that makes you expect a player to completely take over a game every once a while. That hasn't happened.

I think if you abstract Mantha's play from the Manta trade, he's been fine. Not great but not poor either. Mostly I'm reserving judgement until Backstrom comes back. They looked very promising together.

Mantha like Vrana doesn't play on the first line and is not a primary shooter or puck handler on the pp. I dont expect more than what that roster slot has been doing. I certainly dont expect a lot McMichael as the center there. I expect more after Backstrom gets his game legs back under him.

 

[maacoshark]

There's no point. The Capitals wouldnt think of going forward without Hathaway. That line is the group Laviolette trusts the most. Its well documented. That one or more of those players dont belong in the league is silly. Unless, of course, you think Laviolette and by extension MacLellan are idiots.

And tell me this. What has Hathaway done this season to help this team. I'll tell you. Nothing.
He is a below average 4th line player. Nothing more.

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

right. Forgot 77 had a hatty the other night. My bad. And I don't disagree that we need more from Mantha, but he's contributing. There are surely other guys bringing less to the table on both sides of the puck.

He’s contributing…just not as much as he should be given what we traded for him and his salary. I guarantee GMBM doesn’t make that trade if he knew this was what he would get with Mantha.

 

[txpd]

And tell me this. What has Hathaway done this season to help this team. I'll tell you. Nothing.
He is a below average 4th line player. Nothing more.

I know this has to be annoying as all get out for you but Hathaway is a 3rd line player based on actual usage. He's 7th on the team in ev toi among forwards. That line hasn't been the actual 4th line for a good long time.

You dont like him....at all. Noted. Next subject?

 

[HTFN]

He chips in offensively? He hasn't this season. He is average defensively and takes dumb penalties.
He doesn't really belong in the NHL.

You don't know what the f*** you're talking about. Hathaway is every bit an NHLer.

 

[Calicaps]

He’s contributing…just not as much as he should be given what we traded for him and his salary. I guarantee GMBM doesn’t make that trade if he knew this was what he would get with Mantha.

I'd take that bet. Mantha hasn't had any stability since getting here. I'm sure GM knows it.

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

I'd take that bet. Mantha hasn't had any stability since getting here. I'm sure GM knows it.

Maybe he hasn’t had any stability because he hasn’t shown the team what he needs to in order to stay on a line. They tried him with OV and that doesn’t work. Kuzy and him did not have great chemistry. And he doesn’t seem to really mesh well with anyone else. They don’t seem to like him on the PP even with Backstrom gone…I mean Lavy trusts Sheary more which is abused.

 

[maacoshark]

You don't know what the f*** you're talking about. Hathaway is every bit an NHLer.

Yeah and he us the greatest guy in the world. Did you forget when intentionally spit in another players face. I didn't. That's about as disrespectful as you can get.

 

[maacoshark]

I know this has to be annoying as all get out for you but Hathaway is a 3rd line player based on actual usage. He's 7th on the team in ev toi among forwards. That line hasn't been the actual 4th line for a good long time.

You dont like him....at all. Noted. Next subject?

Ok next subject.
I don't like you.

 

[HTFN]

Yeah and he us the greatest guy in the world. Did you forget when intentionally spit in another players face. I didn't. That's about as disrespectful as you can get.

I'm sorry, when did I say respectable? He's a total shithead, he pisses other teams off on the regular.

But he's unmistakably talented and definitely an NHL caliber player.

 

[txpd]

Ok next subject.
I don't like you.

 

[maacoshark]

Lol I guess you are at a loss for words.

 

[maacoshark]

I'm sorry, when did I say respectable? He's a total shithead, he pisses other teams off on the regular.

But he's unmistakably talented and definitely an NHL caliber player.

No he isn't.

 

[HTFN]

No he isn't.

Okay, expert. Not like multiple NHL coaches prove you wrong every day or anything.

 

[Langway]

Settle down.

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[maacoshark]

Okay, expert. Not like multiple NHL coaches prove you wrong every day or anything.

That's right. Remember that.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I guess a few posters bans are up…..nothing but infighting around two dudes….lol.

 

[Devil Dancer]

The scoring balance is a concern. They're starting to look like the late 2000s Senators with one great scoring line, and a bunch of junk 2-4.

At least they have a great defensive line in that 2-4 mix.

 

[zappa4ever]

Nearly turned into that Trap game where we blow 2 points

fortunate ARI never took the lead, could've been a tough-to-take 1-0 loss

Caps stayed the course, didn't freak, (eventually) got it done with a shutout, and an OV stat-padder taboot taboot

5-0-3 is an awesome start. period.
13 of 16 points is $$$

8 games in we've bought time to 'fake it til we make it' :
- Secondary scoring is the painfully obvious need; only 4 Fwds have 2 or more g's
- get healthy (Backi is eligible after Nov.6, hope Dowd isn't more than 1 more game, Oshie's timeline is a big question mark)
- tighten up special teams; PP up to 19.4%, PK 77.3%, 2 SHGF (yay!) , 2 SHGA (boo!)

 

[Roshi]

Typical Caps game thread. 2 points, shutout and Ovie empty netter - 5 pages of whining how terrible we are.

It was ”just get it done” game and the boys got it done. Nice. Off to Miami!