Boqvist is AHL fodder. He's a less defensively skilled Josefson
In 276 games for the Devils, Jacob Josefson scored 11 goals at even strength. In 63 games for the Devils, Jesper Boqvist has scored 7 goals at even strength. So yes, these players are from the same country, but otherwise they're almost nothing alike.
come on, ppg isn't a fair comparison.20 PPG - Josefson
.17 PPG - Boqvist
Yup, nothing alike
Yegor Sharangovich | C | 54 | 711.7667 | 13.18086 | 10 | 11 | 4 | 7 | 21 | |
Janne Kuokkanen | C, L | 50 | 653.8167 | 13.07633 | 6 | 14 | 9 | 5 | 20 | |
Jack Hughes | C | 56 | 831.2667 | 14.84405 | 10 | 9 | 7 | 2 | 19 | |
Jesper Bratt | L | 46 | 574.9833 | 12.49964 | 3 | 15 | 7 | 8 | 18 | |
Miles Wood | L | 55 | 685.2167 | 12.45848 | 11 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 18 | |
Travis Zajac | C | 33 | 419.1 | 12.7 | 7 | 10 | 3 | 7 | 17 | |
Pavel Zacha | C | 50 | 605.2667 | 12.10533 | 9 | 8 | 6 | 2 | 17 |
i mean didn't mcleod prove that theory wrong? he worked on becoming a solid bottom 6er, and if there's anyone we can point to when thinking about evolving your game, look at zacha over the years
no way zacha showed more in his first 63 games, our fanbase shit on him way early in his careerMcLeod has speed and size. Zacha always had the physical toolbox. They both showed more in less time in the NHL than Boqvist too.
And a lot of morons on this page currently still dono way zacha showed more in his first 63 games, our fanbase shit on him way early in his career
and its not like boq is THAT small - he's 6'-0" 180, where mcleod is 6'-2", 190
no way zacha showed more in his first 63 games, our fanbase shit on him way early in his career
and its not like boq is THAT small - he's 6'-0" 180, where mcleod is 6'-2", 190
tell that to all of us in the '16-'17 season, we all look at him w rose-tinted glasses nowHe’s listed at 5’11 on hockeydb. And Zacha’s tools were always apparent. Boqvist’s aren’t - he’s just kinda there.
i dunno if i agree with this. No one doubted Zacha was talented. He was big, great skater, with pretty good hands and a good shot. But the troubling thing was the lack of production, and the EXTRA troubling thing was how many good forwards were available in 2015, which is why a lot of people were down on the pick.tell that to all of us in the '16-'17 season, we all look at him w rose-tinted glasses now
we all look at him w rose-tinted glasses now
come on, ppg isn't a fair comparison
i don't lol. preseason zacha has always been wildly different than regular season zacha. if he turns out to be a 60 point guy over the course of a season, that would be MASSIVE for this team. last year was wacky and i'm not drawing any conclusions on anybody (good or bad), but i think it's safe to say he's trending in the right direction. but personally i'm not counting on jack shit from him, and i hope to be pleasantly surprised.
Zacha will not be a 60 point guy with his current deployment...They have been basically using him as a 3rd line forward with PP time...
McLeod had basically the same amount of 5v5 time as Zacha last season....
McLeod - 52 games 609.52 minutes
Zacha 50 games 605:16 minutes
Johnsson had only slightly less
Johnsson - 50 games 587.5666667 minutes
As long as that is how Zacha is used...People will continue to make believe there is something wrong with his 5v5 performance.
I think he is capable of 45 points in that kind of roll. But you never can count on PP points...They vary and if the points don't come on the PP and you're playing as a 3rd liner...40+ points is tough to achieve.well, i could see him getting top 6 minutes this year. he's probably the first one moved up after our first inevitable injury. but in the unlikely event that he gets 3rd line & PP time only, you can knock 20 points off my 60 point ideal outcome. that would knock my socks off
1)Kuok did produce better then Zacha 5v5, and his on ice %'s were better as well. Zacha did play a lot more special teams and overall played 2 minutes more per game then Kuok did.Zacha produced at 5v5 just as you would expect...
Zacha was 9th (among forwards) on the team last year in Average 5v5 time...7th if you remove Palmieri and Zajac....Kuokkenan, Nico, Sharangovich, Palmieri all average a minute or more of 5v5 time over Zacha and Jack...Jack averaged nearly 3 minutes more per game 5v5. The point totals 5v5 follow almost exactly to the Time On Ice.
I mean look at Kuokkenan who played the same amount of games as Zacha but had 48 &1/2 MORE 5v5 minutes...That is sick...That's like 4 more games in 5v5 minutes Kuokkenan had over Zacha
5v5 points
Edit: What's really sick is Jack played 146 more 5v5 minutes than Miles Wood for 1 extra point...That is a bit hard to fathom. (That is like 12+ additional games - if we call 12 minutes an average.)[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Yegor Sharangovich C 54 711.7667 13.18086 10 11 4 7 21 Janne Kuokkanen C, L 50 653.8167 13.07633 6 14 9 5 20 Jack Hughes C 56 831.2667 14.84405 10 9 7 2 19 Jesper Bratt L 46 574.9833 12.49964 3 15 7 8 18 Miles Wood L 55 685.2167 12.45848 11 7 4 3 18 Travis Zajac C 33 419.1 12.7 7 10 3 7 17 Pavel Zacha C 50 605.2667 12.10533 9 8 6 2 17
tell that to all of us in the '16-'17 season, we all look at him w rose-tinted glasses now
I think he is capable of 45 points in that kind of roll. But you never can count on PP points...They vary and if the points don't come on the PP and you're playing as a 3rd liner...40+ points is tough to achieve.
Zacha will not be a 60 point guy with his current deployment...They have been basically using him as a 3rd line forward with PP time...
McLeod had basically the same amount of 5v5 time as Zacha last season....
McLeod - 52 games 609.52 minutes
Zacha 50 games 605:16 minutes
Johnsson had only slightly less
Johnsson - 50 games 587.5666667 minutes
As long as that is how Zacha is used...People will continue to make believe there is something wrong with his 5v5 performance.
Do you know off-hand what the 5v5 P/60 for Kuok were vs Zacha? I don't feel like doing the math but looking at the raw minutes it hardly looks different. 3 additional points and 48 additional 5v5 minutes....1)Kuok did produce better then Zacha 5v5, and his on ice %'s were better as well. Zacha did play a lot more special teams and overall played 2 minutes more per game then Kuok did.
Hasn't the usage really been the crux of the debate?Zacha will not be a 60 point guy with his current deployment...They have been basically using him as a 3rd line forward with PP time...
McLeod had basically the same amount of 5v5 time as Zacha last season....
McLeod - 52 games 609.52 minutes
Zacha 50 games 605:16 minutes
Johnsson had only slightly less
Johnsson - 50 games 587.5666667 minutes
As long as that is how Zacha is used...People will continue to make believe there is something wrong with his 5v5 performance.
Ruff has said that Zacha will play top 6 wing in games when the team is struggling to score. If you listen to his pressers it sounds like Zacha will play plenty if he is playing well. He has commented tmultiple times that he looks like a different player this year since he was able to train properly this offseason as opposed to last.I think he is capable of 45 points in that kind of roll. But you never can count on PP points...They vary and if the points don't come on the PP and you're playing as a 3rd liner...40+ points is tough to achieve.