News Article: Cap Moving Forward

[TMLAM34]

People who want to trade Matthews are complete idiots.

 

[AllDay28]

I hear a lot of we can’t trade matthews but I disagree. He only has 3 years left until ufa, 2 until his nmc kicks in, if I’m gm, I trade both marner and matthews, change the culture and retool/mini rebuild. Unless your completely comfortable letting matthews walk in 3 years losing your most valued asset for nothing.

matthews is walking?

 

[AllDay28]

Damn now the leafs need to trade Matthews?

 

[TMLAM34]

matthews is walking?

Can you imagine the team we will build in 3 years once all the Ontario boys join the Leafs!

 

[AllDay28]

After Dubie reads this article, all his spreadsheets come back with the following message "USER ERROR, PLEASE TRY AGAIN"

You ever notice in your real life when you talk to people about sports, they go “ya…uh huh..mhmm…sure…yep”?? Feel like that’s a common theme

 

[egd27]

People who want to trade Matthews are complete idiots.

Why is that ?

Let me rephrase that.........Why wouldn't you explore what the return would be?

 

[TMLAM34]

Why is that ?

I shouldn’t even need to explain myself.

 

[Stonehands1990]

matthews is walking?

Fan narrative without a shred of substance. Matthews apparently can’t wait to skip town

 

[egd27]

I shouldn’t even need to explain myself.

I made an edit so it wasn't interpreted as "want" to trade him

"Let me rephrase that.........Why wouldn't you explore what the return would be?"

 

[AllDay28]

Why is that ?

Let me rephrase that.........Why wouldn't you explore what the return would be?

because the return would be worse than the player leaving?

 

[AllDay28]

Fan narrative without a shred of substance. Matthews apparently can’t wait to skip town

the only realistic spot the Leafs could lose Matthews to would be the Kings if Hockey gets bigger in the states and he wants to blow up his brand.

 

[Stonehands1990]

the only realistic spot the Leafs could lose Matthews to would be the Kings if Hockey gets bigger in the states and he wants to blow up his brand.

Toronto is the 4th largest market in North America, the #1 hockey market and by far the fastest growing city in North America

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

So basically we’re f***ed is what I’m learning? f***ing stupid pandemic. Worse things have happened to people and the world at large due to it but in the context of sport I don’t think there’s a team more f***ed than the Leafs.

 

[AllDay28]

Toronto is the 4th largest market in North America, the #1 hockey market and by far the fastest growing city in North America

i agree. He’s still American and if he wants to be closer to home then LA is definitely the spot.

 

[Rokker]

You dont trade a potential generational goal scorer.

But if you don't have an extension in place in 2 years time, are you going to hope and pray he resigns when dozens of teams will offer him max dollars? He chooses where he wants to play, the money wont be any different.

Youre gambling on a lot come that 5th year if an agreement isn't already in place.

...And if we haven't won squat anyways come that time, why wouldn't you look at trying to get a haul? If you know he's gone, restock the cupboards because at that point you're mostlikely in rebuild mode.

 

[egd27]

because the return would be worse than the player leaving?

That would be the answer I would expect from someone that puts the player above the team. Just like Kid Kyle, you've fallen in love with AM34 and his sick snipes.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Doubt it. All it takes is 1 playoff series win and Dubas probably gets atleast 3 more years.

The fact that MLSE is just giving him a mulligan for this year indicates a terrifying precedent behind the scenes.

Has Larry made his decision yet? If so i have not heard that. Once da boys finish up with players and Shanny sits down with Dubie then Shanny still needs to go see Larry. Then we will see what is going on next year. We are talking about franchise brand here and it has been badly hurt. As has $$$ stream and don't think Larry is gonna be a happy camper. I bet Shanny has to meet conditions if he stays on.

 

[AllDay28]

That would be the answer I would expect from someone that puts the player above the team. Just like Kid Kyle, you've fallen in love with AM34 and his sick snipes.

ya I fell in love with a top 3 player in the league. You’re in love with rooting against your favourite team. We’re not the same.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Why is that ?

Let me rephrase that.........Why wouldn't you explore what the return would be?

After the bonus is paid out for this year he's still owed approximately 25 mil over those last 3 years. Teams aren't doing well financially and you think they will want to pay that out.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

ya I fell in love with a top 3 player in the league. You’re in love with rooting against your favourite team. We’re not the same.

Self loathing would be the term.

 

[egd27]

ya I fell in love with a top 3 player in the league. You’re in love with rooting against your favourite team. We’re not the same.

I root for the Crest on the front not the Name on the back. I like Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and Tavares. I even like Andersen and Reilly.

But if there is a trade that moves the team I root for closer to the Stanley Cup......pull the trigger.

NO ONE can't be traded.

 

[egd27]

After the bonus is paid out for this year he's still owed approximately 25 mil over those last 3 years. Teams aren't doing well financially and you think they will want to pay that out.

I don't know.....I'm just suggesting that everything should be looked into. If there's not an excellent return, then don't do anything.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

I don't know.....I'm just suggesting that everything should be looked into. If there's not an excellent return, then don't do anything.

Well he's up for the Hart Trophy viewed as one of the 3 best players in the league. What would you want in return?? 3 1st rounders, 2 top prospects, top 6 forward and that's just spit ballin.

 

[egd27]

Well he's up for the Hart Trophy viewed as one of the 3 best players in the league. What would you want in return?? 3 1st rounders, 2 top prospects, top 6 forward and that's just spit ballin.

Spitballing?

A youngish C that can eventually take over for JT. 25 goals min (and improving)
A 24ish D that can make Reilly expendable and log 20+ minutes
A 26ish 3rd line centre that is good at both ends of the ice 15-20 goals

All with size and speed

An unprotected 1st and a pair of 2nds

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

Fan narrative without a shred of substance. Matthews apparently can’t wait to skip town

I think if we somehow end up trading Mitchy...AM is gone. I don't know where he would go..but I think the pressure of the media focusing on him if we still have the same cycle of losing in the 1st rd (or 2nd at most) will make him think of leaving. Maybe he realizes that money is not going to do much for him if people will always have a "..but he never won a cup" thought in the back of their head. I do think if he had some success with Mitch that he would probably stay...but that depends on them.