Since when is entering the first level of the substance abuse program provided by the NHL 'not accepting help with his personal demons'? We know for a fact that Kassian was in stage one while in Vancouver and didn't enter stage two until he was in Montreal. Per the
NHL/NHLPA SABH Program:
So Kassian was in stage one of treatment with no issues while in Vancouver. This means the whole 'will not accept help with their personal demons' is just made up by you - like so much of the other tripe you post.
Reals over feels man - try it sometime.
The (lack of) quality of your arguments really shows that you must 'debate' 8 year-olds often.
ok, so we started off with you quoting "canadian human rights law" at me and claiming that the canucks trading a player who would not accept help from their personal demons would be a breach of those laws.
now you are quoting the provisions of the collective bargaining agreement. that's a labour agreement. and now you are drawing inferences about what happened from the fact the team and league didn't invoke stage 2, which is a suspension of the player without pay.
let's start with the fact the two things are not the same thing. one is human rights law, and the other is a labour contract. goalposts baby.
the canucks as an employer can fulfill their human rights law substance abuse accommodation obligations to the player without ever invoking stage 2 of the cba protocol. substance abuse treatment and accommodation normally happens confidentially to protect the employee. publicly announced suspensions without pay are not required or expected under human rights law.
under canadian human rights law, the employer's obligation to accommodate someone with a substance abuse problem is not as tall an order as you imply. the canucks need to professionally assess the problem and attempt to accommodate it, but the duty is by no means absolute and not even that high if kassian was not classified as an addict. the team would be required to make reasonable efforts to work with him, furnish counselling, keep a log of violations and warnings, and then if the problems persisted they'd eventually be clear under human rights law to move on and flat out terminate him.
now the canucks can separately satisfy their cba obligations simply by referring kassian into the nhl program and cooperating, after which it is really the league's problem. further while they can ask for stage 2, they have no control about going to stage 2. that is the call of the treating physicians. the team, league, the league's treating physician and the player are under no obligation to ever escalate things to stage 2 under the cba. not doing so is the norm. invoking stage 2 of the cba protocol makes it public which is potentially a death sentence for a career. all over the league it is used sparingly, and teams, specialists and player agents work hard to find alternatives. it is a last resort. it is also not strictly a treatment. stage 2 is an escalation on the path to termination of the player's contract for cause.
thirdly, nothing in the cba prevents a player in the cba stage 1 substance abuse program from being traded. what usually prevents it is the fact that it must be disclosed to a team being offered the athlete, but if you pay attention there are obviously instances where teams will take on such trades.
fourth, trading a player away from a toxic environment is potentially advisable provided they will receive proper care in the new environment. it might even be a move recommended by treating professionals.
fifth, you literally have no idea what the canucks did or did not do in terms of counselling and professional treatment for kassian , or how he was assessed, or what professional advice the team, player and agent had at the time of that trade. the inferences you are drawing that the canucks broke the law or violated the cba are ill informed bunk driven by your own agenda.
here's what we know
-kassian has since publicly acknowledged his problems
-kassian very publicly blew up shortly after the trade
-at the time of the trade, kassian was a wealthy young man with a great deal on the line and the representation of an agent and protection of the nhlpa. he had the means to hire lawyers if the canucks violated the law or cba in their treatment of him, and the nhlpa had every incentive to support him if that was the case.
if against those facts you want to infer fantasies about alan eagleson era treatment of the guy by the canucks, you are feel free to use your vivid imagination. i will totally leave you alone in your magical universe if just let me have my opinions without pretending mine are somehow wrong or misconceived but yours are not only awesome but legally supported.
