Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign F Conor Garland to 5-Year Deal ($4.95M AAV)

[Wo Yorfat]

I dunno if there was even a Benning tax on this one. EW had him at 4 x 4.68, so tack on another year (UFA year) and you get 4.95 pretty easily I would think.

It might pan out and be a good deal, but 4.95M is higher than almost every projection I saw for him here or otherwise.

 

[4th line culture]

Why the F would Arizona trade this player

To get rid of oel

 

[PuckMunchkin]

You need to relax, the cap will likely go up as soon as next season given the NHL signed a monster TV deal and now that things are returning to normal

Im expecting the cap to double!

Either way, cap space doesnt matter.

Go nucks go!

 

[GetFocht]

To get rid of oel

OEL will be producing 40+ points next season and playing 23 mins a game. I'll take him at 7.2 million any day when you compare his production and contract to the rest of the top paid defenders.

 

[GetFocht]

It might pan out and be a good deal, but 4.95M is higher than almost every projection I saw for him here or otherwise.

It's higher because of term, Canucks essentially bought all his best years including UFA years. If it was a 2 year deal, the price would have been a million less.

 

[bandwagonesque]

I might take a few wheelbarrows full of cap space down to Rogers Arena this weekend depending on what happens.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Getting zero breaks in this contract.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

OEL will be producing 40+ points next season and playing 23 mins a game. I'll take him at 7.2 million any day when you compare his production and contract to the rest of the top paid defenders.

I too would rather have him on the PP1 than Quinn Hughes.

 

[timw33]

OEL will be producing 40+ points next season and playing 23 mins a game. I'll take him at 7.2 million any day when you compare his production and contract to the rest of the top paid defenders.

Again, how in the hell is OEL going to get 40+ points when Quinn Hughes will in all likelihood play 80% of the PP QB minutes?

 

[4th line culture]

OEL will be producing 40+ points next season and playing 23 mins a game. I'll take him at 7.2 million any day when you compare his production and contract to the rest of the top paid defenders.

For sure all of those points will be at even strength. All the issues with preventing goals against will disappear once he comes to a team that actually knows how to defend.

 

[kcunac]

How many UFA years does this buy? 3?

 

[Scorvat]

You need to relax, the cap will likely go up as soon as next season given the NHL signed a monster TV deal and now that things are returning to normal

People have been over projecting the cap for years now, and this optimism of growth has often screwed over teams in major ways. While the cap will rise we shouldn't trust that it will do this and player salaries will once again adjust to the new cap environment.

But I'm not really panicked. The current mode the team is in invites and needs this team to be a contender in the next 3 years. If Hoglander and Podkolzkin are regular top 6 fixtures then trading a Boeser or Miller is one of the best ways to recoup young assets and reallocate money to the defense/#3 C

 

[GetFocht]

I too would rather have him on the PP1 than Quinn Hughes.

I think you will likely see OEL and Hughes both on PP1. OEL has a better shot than most of the team including forwards.

 

[Scorvat]

Why the F would Arizona trade this player

Looks like the player everyone wanted Shinkaruk to be

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I think you will likely see OEL and Hughes both on PP1. OEL has a better shot than most of the team including forwards.

Yes! AND Garland.

 

[GetFocht]

Pavel Buchvenich gets 5.8 million cap hit over 4 years. Benning struck gold with Garland.

 

[bandwagonesque]

Looks like the player everyone wanted Shinkaruk to be

Are you thinking specifically of the incredible bad angle goal he scored in the preseason?

 

[Melvin]

How many UFA years does this buy? 3?

I believe so.

Not really a huge fan of these long term deals to guys who haven't played a single game here, as this has basically not worked out well a single time for us, and I am extremely wary of reading too much into last season's data, but this seems reasonable for 3 UFA years and the player is only 25. Still waiting to hear on trade protection / bonus structure.

 

[Scorvat]

Are you thinking specifically of the incredible bad angle goal he scored in the preseason?

Yes lol, But a playmaking, elusive winger that plays fearless was kind of what peoples hopes were for him

 

[Aqualung]

Pavel Buchvenich gets 5.8 million cap hit over 4 years. Benning struck gold with Garland.

Buch is a much more versatile player and more valuable

 

[alternate]

Reasonable deal, and in line with what pretty much everyone was expecting him to sign for.

Benning really didn't have much room to negotiate, IMO, so it's nice to see that there isn't an overpayment or any weird protections.

Strange how everyone is approving of this deal when apparently this place is a den of vipers who hate literally everything the Benning regime does.

Give it 24 hours...

 

[alternate]

I believe so.

Not really a huge fan of these long term deals to guys who haven't played a single game here, as this has basically not worked out well a single time for us, and I am extremely wary of reading too much into last season's data, but this seems reasonable for 3 UFA years and the player is only 25. Still waiting to hear on trade protection / bonus structure.

Think it was already reported that there is no signing bonuses, no movement protection. Wouldn't be the first time initial reports were wrong though, so we will see.

 

[NoShowWilly]

People have been over projecting the cap for years now, and this optimism of growth has often screwed over teams in major ways. While the cap will rise we shouldn't trust that it will do this and player salaries will once again adjust to the new cap environment.

But I'm not really panicked. The current mode the team is in invites and needs this team to be a contender in the next 3 years. If Hoglander and Podkolzkin are regular top 6 fixtures then trading a Boeser or Miller is one of the best ways to recoup young assets and reallocate money to the defense/#3 C

They aren't trading Miller. Might not re-sign him but they will be allin next year as well. Boeser i could see in some sort of hockey trade maybe. They will not recoup assets unless this team completely shits the bed. I cannot see them below at least a bubble team unless demko breaks under #1 pressure.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Great Deal!

Top six possible Top line player/ production for under 5 mil while getting no trade protection and buying some free agency years.

Excellent move!

Next order of business, trade Schmidt.

 

[m9]

Pls don’t compare Garlond to any overpaid 4th liners/3rd pair D we’ve signed in FA in the last

Hey, at least it's not Brandon Sutter that they are taking the swing on.

I really do think that having another RHS top 6 locked in is their Boeser backup plan. Honestly if they had just kept Toffoli as well they probably could have moved Boeser for a legit top young D by now and been miles ahead.

I will pretty much always be against term (4+ years) for guys who haven't played on your team before. These situations are when teams get burned the most in all sports, not just hockey. People like to focus on it being strictly an UFA thing because the players are old and age is definitely part of it.. but it's also that you are taking on extra risk when you haven't seen the guy play for you. Different situations, systems, whatever.

As far as I can tell, in the last 10 years the guys who fall into this category (acquired with 4+ years left, signed as FAs for 4+ years, or immediately signed long-time are:

-Booth
-Garrison
-Eriksson
-Sutter
-Beagle
-Roussel
-Myers
-Miller
-Schmidt

Miller's been good. Garrison was okay, but went south quickly. But the rest have gone poorly and when you give guys 4+ years you would think you are locking up safe bets. Now this off-season we have OEL & Garland added.

I don't know, maybe this isn't the thread for it as Garland is his own guy.