Post-Game Talk: Canucks def. Rangers - 3-2 (OT) (Miller x 2, Podkolzin)

[4Twenty]

It's pretty easy.

Vancouver is going nowhere with Pearson and Chiasson in the top-9, and with Podkolzin getting 7-8 minutes per game.

Boeser-Pettersson-Podkolzin

Garland-Horvat-Miller

*******-********-Hoglander

Pearson-Dickinson-********

I think Pearson could and should be the 3LW.

last season Hoglander/Horvat/Boeser was the teams most successful line albeit in a small weird sample. I’d run that as the top line.

Then I’d just have Garland move up with Miller and Pettersson.

Pearson and Pod could be a duo as well. Just not keen on the C options but to me that’s the way to go. Have your 6 best offensive forwards playing together.


Pearson has not been one of the teams best players. He’s outscoring his expected levels and getting lucky at the other end. He’s been decent. Bo is a better away from him.


Also @biturbo19 post more often. You’re an asset to this forum and your analysis is appreciated.

 

[4Twenty]

Don't know about the analytics, but the kid kept the ozone so many times with mini pinches and moving the puck to the right places... he played well tonight... Very safe... And then... The Save, before The Save.

The kid? 28 year old journeyman is a kid now?

lol

 

[Breakers]

Man it is fun to watch hockey when you are the better team at 5v5


Only 2nd time this has happened this year
And if history tells us, it won’t last till next game with Green

 

[DL44]

The kid? 28 year old journeyman is a kid now?

lol

Edler is still a kid to me..

 

[DL44]

For the love of god can Green please separate Pearson from Horvat. We’ve seen so many different line combinations this year yet Pearson is still stapled to Horvat.

Yeah.. Horvat is next on the list of disappointing players.. Pearson has been his consistent self.. earning himself scoring chances. Hoglander skated well tonight, but still couldn't put anything significant on net.. delegated the puck well tho...


Might almost be time to try Petty at wing... Put him with Horvat - let em figure themselves out. Move Pearson with Miller and Garland.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

The lack of quickness on the 4th line really bothered me, with the injuries to Highmore and Dowling the bottom 6 is getting beat to loose pucks and do not move the puck quickly. I’d replace Bailey and Chaisson with Di Giuseppe and Petan.

 

[Pip]

Bailey is slow?

 

[Hit the post]

Yup, NYR fans are quite unhappy the team has played really bad hockey so far. That NYR have won games is because of guys like Shestyerkin and Fox. It says quite alot when a team struggling mightily themselves - the Canucks - dominate NYR.

We won da turd!

 

[Catamarca Livin]

The lack of quickness on the 4th line really bothered me, with the injuries to Highmore and Dowling the bottom 6 is getting beat to loose pucks and do not move the puck quickly. I’d replace Bailey and Chaisson with Di Giuseppe and Petan.

Bailey is an elite quick skater. He drew 2 penalties and looked good on pk . Chaisson is not no an elite or even average skater.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Garland had one hell of a game. Those two set ups on the first two goals were as good as it gets. If we can ever get the Lotto Line and Horvat playing well at the same time then the team could go on a roll with Demko in net and the D playing better than expected. I never thought the offense would end up being the issue but so far it has been.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Watching Garland this season, brings me back memories of watching Burrows between 2008-2010. Same level of tenacity, but potentially a better playmaker with faster wheels. There's no doubt Garland can really thrive if he has the line mates to maintain puck possession in the offensive zone. EP better get his head out of his ass...He wants to win, and certainly has a few linemates (Hoglander, Garland) that can help him.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Th Miller OT goal gave me flashbacks to that one goal against Boston in the SCF. Can’t remember if it was Torres or Lapierre or Burrows

Yeah was at that game. The part I liked best was that thousands still hadn't gotten to their seats and didn't see it. Always hate having to get up qo times for idiots returning late for the start of the period, and miss what's going on on the ice. One of Burrows biggest goals.

And I didn't think the Canucks were that bad yesterday. Yes Demko stood on his head, and damn were they lucky on that 5 on 3. But they also had something like 3 posts and crossbars. Thought for the most pat the game was even. And they need to improve their power play.

 

[VanJack]

So far this season, you'd have to say that OEL and Garland have been two of the Canucks' best players. Although it might look different down the road, you'd have to say that this trade is coming up aces for the Canucks.

Just a thought.....why don't they try Podkolzin as the net-front presence on the PP instead of Chiasson?:....I mean how could things be going any worse? Unfortunately when the Canucks get six or seven PP opportunities, Podkolzin's ice time really gets chopped.

 

[CanuckleBerry]

Games like this are hard to process. On one hand, it's actually reaffirming to my faith in most of this core. I don't want to oversell it, but there is enough fight and character buried in there that makes me think there is still a foundation that could become something special. It just doesn't come out nearly as often as it should. Which brings me to the other hand, which is the supporting makeup of the team and above all coaching. We're not getting the most of what we have and I have no faith that would change if the supporting cast gradually improved. This core isn't going anywhere with that dichotomy, no matter how many times Demko and Co saves the collective asses of the coaching staff. I don't know how I as a Canucks fan am supposed to get revved up for games knowing 40 minutes at least are going to be like last night.

 

[Hit the post]

So far this season, you'd have to say that OEL and Garland have been two of the Canucks' best players. Although it might look different down the road, you'd have to say that this trade is coming up aces for the Canucks.

Just a thought.....why don't they try Podkolzin as the net-front presence on the PP instead of Chiasson?:....I mean how could things be going any worse? Unfortunately when the Canucks get six or seven PP opportunities, Podkolzin's ice time really gets chopped.

Excluding the goalie.

Including the goalie:
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everyone else (mind you, Pod would be up higher if the coach would actually let him play meaningful minutes)

 

[4Twenty]

Bailey is slow?

At processing he is.

 

[Pip]

At processing he is.

Sometimes, but I don’t think he is really worse than his competition there.

 

[Kravtsov420]

I told you my team is bad!

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

- Good move by Green to put Garland on the Lotto line..The combined compete level by Miller and Garland was a treat to watch..Miller/EP/ Garland would have to be a thing next game....Boeser was a half step behind, and clumsy with the puck last night, not one of his better games.

- Podz was taking it upon himself to lay the body a bit last night..Lafreniere took exception, and thought he would teach Podz a lesson, and clothes lined him to the ice..Podz gets right up and beelines straight to the net..and scores....That was Lafreniers check, and he wore the goat horns on that goal.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

I told you my team is bad!

Not at all..Fox and Shesterkin are world class...I have to be honest though, what's with Kakko..?..Barely noticed him.

 

[Kravtsov420]

Not at all..Fox and Shesterkin are world class...I have to be honest though, what's with Kakko..?..Barely noticed him.

Kakko is usually better, he’s coming off injury. But quite frankly, the kids don’t get any power play time and they’re not working well on the lines they’re on

 

[4Twenty]

Lol I’m confused

 

[Regress2TheMeme]

Games like this are hard to process. On one hand, it's actually reaffirming to my faith in most of this core. I don't want to oversell it, but there is enough fight and character buried in there that makes me think there is still a foundation that could become something special. It just doesn't come out nearly as often as it should. Which brings me to the other hand, which is the supporting makeup of the team and above all coaching. We're not getting the most of what we have and I have no faith that would change if the supporting cast gradually improved. This core isn't going anywhere with that dichotomy, no matter how many times Demko and Co saves the collective asses of the coaching staff. I don't know how I as a Canucks fan am supposed to get revved up for games knowing 40 minutes at least are going to be like last night.

There are some really good pieces. The biggest thing that's holding the team back is the stalled development of Pettersson and Horvat. They're both skilled players but they don't handle match ups well at all. I don't see this team contending until those guys grow into solid 2-way players. I think it will take a different coaching staff to make that happen, and I doubt it happens overnight. Hopefully we start to see flashes of that growth before this season is over, but it looks like more of a long term project to me.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Kakko is usually better, he’s coming off injury. But quite frankly, the kids don’t get any power play time and they’re not working well on the lines they’re on

Okay now discuss Lafreniere. Watched a few Rangers games and the guy looks like a grinder. Really underwhelming for a #1 OA...

 

[strattonius]

At processing he is.

I think everyone thought you were talking about skating speed - inference being 'we need to be faster in our bottom 6'.

Of course his processing is a bit slower. He's a 4th line player if he had a cerebral game he'd be a top 6 fwd so not exactly sure what your issue with Bailey is.