Post-Game Talk: Canucks def. Jets - 3-1 (Hoglander x2, Horvat)

[The Vasili Jerry]

Sure it would have been a nice touch. Maybe Green just didn't find the right moment, who knows. But the reaction to this is way over the top. I enjoyed watching the Canucks win, even though they are just playing out the string. It was nice to see Rathbone get a cheap point, but he played well again, so we can speculate about the great player he can be. Same with Hog, who looks like he could develop into a 60 maybe 70 point player. It's fun to imagine that that might happen,m but you guys suck the joy out of everything. Smoke some weed, get drunk. You guys seriously need to lighten up.

To me it's kinda like watching a movie. If it's a really good movie but then the ending is absolute dog crap then you aren't going to sit around talking about how great the movie was. You're more likely to sit around saying how a good movie was ruined by what happened at the end. That's how I viewed what happened, anyway.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I don’t know if this story is true, but I hope it is.

 

[logan5]

Did anybody ask Green after the game, if he was trying to get Hoglander out there? I'm sure some reporter must have ask4ed him.

 

[canuckking1]

I don’t know if this story is true, but I hope it is.

Murph reported back in the draft

 

[Svencouver]

A big development is Hoglander seems to have picked up a step. He might have a higher ceiling than thought. Maybe he is another core player. It has been a bad year but there are some nice pieces to build with. I rather be Vancouver than Winnipeg, Calgary, Montreal. Ottawa is hard to say, obviously Edmonton Toronto are in better places.

The fact that we have so many exceptional core pieces with such a discordant on-ice result that seems to stifle their exceptionalism instead of really being tailored around their strengths and making them shine is a huge urgent indictment of our management and coaching. We straight up have one of the best cores in the league, and yet we're languishing at the bottom of that league.

It is the most undeniable indictment of Green as a coach beyond anything more complex analyzing his coaching style, demeanor, systems, or anything. It's simply unacceptable to not be excelling given the huge fortunes we've been granted; and you can see that on the ice when the only reason we ever win is because of those exceptional talents winning in spite of everything else and fighting through the mediocrity imposed around them with triumphant individual efforts.

 

[logan5]

Murph reported back in the draft

Is there any kind of back story to this? Maybe they have some history playing against each other - a big hit or something. But these 2 on the same line would be a nightmare for opponents. Pettersson with these 2 would be something worth trying.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

The fact that we have so many exceptional core pieces with such a discordant on-ice result that seems to stifle their exceptionalism instead of really being tailored around their strengths and making them shine is a huge urgent indictment of our management and coaching. We straight up have one of the best cores in the league, and yet we're languishing at the bottom of that league.

It is the most undeniable indictment of Green as a coach beyond anything more complex analyzing his coaching style, demeanor, systems, or anything. It's simply unacceptable to not be excelling given the huge fortunes we've been granted; and you can see that on the ice when the only reason we ever win is because of those exceptional talents winning in spite of everything else and fighting through the mediocrity imposed around them with triumphant individual efforts.

i'll say it again, none of boeser, petey, and hughes has surpassed how good they were on the first day of their rookie seasons.

seriously, he should be embarrassed.

 

[logan5]

The fact that we have so many exceptional core pieces with such a discordant on-ice result that seems to stifle their exceptionalism instead of really being tailored around their strengths and making them shine is a huge urgent indictment of our management and coaching. We straight up have one of the best cores in the league, and yet we're at the bottom of that league.

It is the most undeniable indictment of Green as a coach beyond anything more complex analyzing his coaching style, demeanor, systems, or anything. It's simply unacceptable to not be excelling given the huge fortunes we've been granted; and you can see that on the ice when the only reason we ever win is because of those exceptional talents winning in spite of everything else and fighting through the mediocrity imposed around them with triumphant individual efforts.

Take a look at the best teams in the league, then look at their ages. The Canucks are still developing, though they did show some good signs last year, and I don't think it was a Covid fluke. They will break out next season...

 

[Svencouver]

Take a look at the best teams in the league, then look at their ages. The Canucks are still developing, though they did show some good signs last year, and I don't think it was a Covid fluke. They will break out next season...

Sure, but I dont want us to be sitting on our butts waiting for a miracle breakout when its clear that our personnel is already very good at hockey and its the team that somehow sucks in spite of that personnel. Like, sure, our bottom 6 and depth isnt great, but we could certainly be getting more out of this team than we already are. Elite talent like ours can, and historically has, excelled early in their careers. That's not a window that has to be fulfilled or anything, but the time for aspiration on this teams part is now.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Green needs to give his head a shake for not having him out on the open net situation.

there's no way hoglander has, say, a 15 goals or 30 points bonus clause is there?

 

[Bougieman]

Now that the Canucks have been officially put out of their playoff misery, can we finally see some lineup changes?

Juolevi, Rathbone, Gadjovich, Lockwood, Rafferty....I don't care, as long as we see some new faces.

For God's sake give guys like Edler, Myers, Hughes and Pearson some rest. They look like they're skating in molasses out there at times. There's just no excuses for playing these guys 20-plus minutes a night now that there's officially only six games left in the season.

Imagine if Hughes gets a long term injury right now, playing 20+ minutes in meaningless games when there are a whole host of young players just waiting to get a chance to take the baton? It would decimate this team next season, and FOR NO GOOD REASON.

 

[VanJack]

Let's face it if this was any other 'lottery team' anywhere else in the league, Hoglander would have been played until his tongue hung out.....lots of pp time and five on five ice-time to become an even higher scorer and refine his game.

Who knows, he might have been a legit candidate for the Calder at this point in the season? According to the stats-can, Hoglander has more five-on-five points than any Canuck in the lineup, including Horvat, Miller and Boeser.

 

[Get North]

i'll say it again, none of boeser, petey, and hughes has surpassed how good they were on the first day of their rookie seasons.

seriously, he should be embarrassed.

Brock Boeser is having a career year and his two-way play has significantly improved. He's one of our best two-way winger. His skating hasn't improved but that's not Green's responsibility.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Sure, but I dont want us to be sitting on our butts waiting for a miracle breakout when its clear that our personnel is already very good at hockey and its the team that somehow sucks in spite of that personnel. Like, sure, our bottom 6 and depth isnt great, but we could certainly be getting more out of this team than we already are. Elite talent like ours can, and historically has, excelled early in their careers. That's not a window that has to be fulfilled or anything, but the time for aspiration on this teams part is now.

the 2010 blackhawks are the best example of this. going into the season, nobody thought it was their time yet. toews and kane had just finished their second years, keith and seabrook had just finished their fourth years, and their powerplay was still being run by brian campbell and cam barker.

nobody except their GM, one dale tallon, who splurged on two big finishing moves, signing marian hossa and john madden. then he was fired days later.

 

[Svencouver]

the 2010 blackhawks are the best example of this. going into the season, nobody thought it was their time yet. toews and kane had just finished their second years, keith and seabrook had just finished their fourth years, and their powerplay was still being run by brian campbell and cam barker.

nobody except their GM, one dale tallon, who splurged on two big finishing moves, signing marian hossa and john madden. then he was fired days later.

When you have elite talent theres no wrong time to go for it. Maybe not go "all-in", but dont settle for being a "young team". Be a great team.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Brock Boeser is having a career year and his two-way play has significantly improved. He's one of our best two-way winger. His skating hasn't improved but that's not Green's responsibility.

i love boeser and totally appreciate the work he's put in. but he isn't better than the boeser who fourth in the league in goals in the first half of his rookie year.

even now with most of his mojo back, he still isn't rookie boeser. we saw exactly that tonight when he was on that partial breakaway with benn on him. the lack of breakaway speed isn't on green, but him not believing he can just wire it from farther out instead of skating it right into the goalie is.

and wtf is he still doing as the down low guy on the PP?

 

[Get North]

i love boeser and totally appreciate the work he's put in. but he isn't better than the boeser who fourth in the league in goals in the first half of his rookie year.

even now with most of his mojo back, he still isn't rookie boeser. we saw exactly that tonight when he was on that partial breakaway with benn on him. the lack of breakaway speed isn't on green, but him not believing he can just wire it from farther out instead of skating it right into the goalie is.

and wtf is he still doing as the down low guy on the PP?

We can look at Boeser's injury history as a potential reason for his slowdown in goals, but that skating is not acceptable. He simply cannot be a TOI leader at forward with that speed. Hoglander, Podkolzin, Miller are much better two-way wingers, I think Boeser needs to find a role on a 3rd line.

Boeser can score 50 goals, but if we're not winning it doesn't matter.

 

[Indiana]

can't the coaches replay these games and show the players what they're doing wrong?

Not from this coach.

 

[sting101]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Rathbone out of the lineup for Juolevi after tonight.

But with the playoffs officially done it would be nice to give edler 2 or 3 games off.

Unless of course he retires and doesn't get any more chances to score that 100th goal.

 

[4Twenty]

Boeser’s rookie season is a career high watermark in points per game.

For him to surpass that this season he’ll need 9 points in 6 games.

This is the problem with projecting hoglander’s season into 70 point seasons.

Also people need to get the idea that this group of players is exceptional out of their minds.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Woo!

Woo was a great partner for Rathbone in Utica.

 

[4Twenty]

For all those folks stating this is some kind of young team? What about Carolina? Or Colorado?

Pretty sure they’re both younger and both leading their conferences and have been challenging for a number of seasons now.

This team isn’t especially young or good.

 

[AppleHoneySauce]

For all those folks stating this is some kind of young team? What about Carolina? Or Colorado?

Pretty sure they’re both younger and both leading their conferences and have been challenging for a number of seasons now.

This team isn’t especially young or good.

Expecting consistency from benning supporters lmao.

 

[DS7]

Not from this coach.

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