Confirmed with Link: Canes officially match l'offre hostile from MTL for Aho

[spockBokk]

Would not shock me at all if Aho becomes a GM one day. Would not shock me at all if Dundon is already planning on it being for the Canes.

The Sakic treatment?

If Aho's career comes close to that of Sakic's, I think he'd be doing much more than OK.

For fantasy/summer doldrum's - I think it would have been devastating for the franchise for them to let Aho walk for futures, even for 4 1sts. Were I GM and had I made the idiotic decision to not match, I would have tried to pull something similar to what TB and PHI did way back in the day, by trading some of the compensation picks back for roster players. So, looking at MTL's roster, I would have asked for Drouin + Suzuki and I would have kept the 1st and 2nd for 2020, then traded back the 3rd + Fleury or similar prospect. Certainly not ideal, but even with Aho, MTL is probably at best competing for a wildcard spot, so that 1st had a chance to be lottery and I get back a warm body who can put up 50pts and a good prospect that's almost NHL ready. Then, I would have to go get a mediocre C to fill the void, like a Turris with retention or sign Brassard...ugh...

So really in the end, no choice but to match...

 

[Porvari]

I seriously doubt you are off at all. After TT's signing during the season, one of the reporters asked Aho about it and he said it was a nice contract for both TT and the team. He is certainly aware of the contracts on the team and what would be a bad contract for competitive purposes.

Would not shock me at all if Aho becomes a GM one day. Would not shock me at all if Dundon is already planning on it being for the Canes.

I wouldn't be shocked if Teräväinen's and Aho's willingness to leave money on the table was a co-ordinated effort to keep the band together and give it a chance to win. They're both smart Finnish middle-class kids who realize they're set for life in any case and have a good boogie going down in Raleigh.

As for Aho's future, well, his dad is not only a former pro hockey player but also the current general manager for Kärpät. He's got nous and pedigree.

 

[MinJaBen]

The Sakic treatment?

I was thinking of StevieY, actually.

 

[AD Skinner]

It is imperative to continue this good boogie

 

[emptyNedder]

There is a lot of "Aho wanted" or "Aho was thinking" explaining. The one possibility I don't see mentioned is that TT signed for 5 years. The two seem really close on and off the ice. It is possible that an additional consideration (not necessarily the primary one) for the 5-year contract was Teravainen's contract.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Google Translate has given this franchise so much over the years.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Google Translate has given this franchise so much over the years.

—-Tom Screen

 

[Unsustainable]

—-Tom Screen

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[Boom Boom Apathy]

There is a lot of "Aho wanted" or "Aho was thinking" explaining. The one possibility I don't see mentioned is that TT signed for 5 years. The two seem really close on and off the ice. It is possible that an additional consideration (not necessarily the primary one) for the 5-year contract was Teravainen's contract.

True. Pesce is also 5 more years. Only Slavin is signed for 6. So if he was to sign an 8 year deal, he'd be 2-3 years longer than anyone else.

I've said this before, but if I was a 21 year old, I would not want to sign an 7 or 8 year deal with any team. A lot can change and I'd want the flexibility to stay, or go, while still in my prime.

 

[bleedgreen]

Five year deals should be the max. It’s a perfect length. Sure, one more year of his ufa would be nice but to be done with all of that already I could care less. He’s signed, moving on.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

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Interview with Aho's agent at about 58 min. mark. Doesn't say much thought.
- just business and doing his job.
- Said it's an emotional process though for players, agents, GMs, so he understands Dundon/Waddell's reaction, even though it's not usually as public, but it's over.
- He said he didn't expect an OS since they are rare, but wasn't surprised they got one.
- Doesn't expect many more offer sheets, maybe 1 more, because they are rare and in his own words, "we all know most offer sheets don't work".
- re: the "low" AAV - Teams want the player (contract) to fit into their structure.

Not much else. I got the vibe that he knew the OS would be matched from the get go.

Also had Puljujarvi's agent at about the 2H:20m mark.

- Said Jesse hasn't said he wants to go to Europe
- Has said he doesn't think it's going to work in Edm and they need a fresh start.
- Has been having good dialogue with Holland about trade possibilities.

 

[DaveG]

Five year deals should be the max. It’s a perfect length. Sure, one more year of his ufa would be nice but to be done with all of that already I could care less. He’s signed, moving on.

And from what I'm told that's an item they want to bring up in the next cba again. I'd definitely be in favor

 

[Lempo]

Also had Puljujarvi's agent at about the 2H:20m mark.

- Said Jesse hasn't said he wants to go to Europe
- Has said he doesn't think it's going to work in Edm and they need a fresh start.
- Has been having good dialogue with Holland about trade possibilities.

Fits to what's been reported. Jesse expects to be in NHL, but I get the idea that he won't sign with EDM but rather goes to Europe. Hard to target with OH in this situation, he won't risk EDM matching it.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Five year deals should be the max. It’s a perfect length. Sure, one more year of his ufa would be nice but to be done with all of that already I could care less. He’s signed, moving on.

And from what I'm told that's an item they want to bring up in the next cba again. I'd definitely be in favor

It’s weird, I’m actually not sure where the lines would be drawn on this issue.

 

[vorbis]

in the context of CBA negotiations, it's hard to separate max contract length from "years of control" for young players. I think that's going to be one of the biggest points of contention with the union.

 

[bleedgreen]

It’s weird, I’m actually not sure where the lines would be drawn on this issue.

Everyone always says it’s the gm’s fault and we should stop fixing their problems for them but agents always find a way to take teams to the max no matter what the limits are.

While moving to 7/8 years was a huge problem solver for the ridiculous 10 plus year contracts I think it’s clear that 7/8 years often leads to a negative outcome for both parties on some level.

Maybe it’s a ufa concept? That’s usually where it kills you. Maybe start by eliminating ufa contracts over 5, but allowing under a certain age to stay 7/8? I’m sure the nhlpa are going to fight over that issue. I’d prefer five across the board though. Way less team damning consequences.

 

[Roboturner913]

I wouldn't be shocked if Teräväinen's and Aho's willingness to leave money on the table was a co-ordinated effort to keep the band together and give it a chance to win.

I don't know if I'd use the words "coordinated effort" but generally speaking, when a team is good/on the rise players will tend to take a a little bit of a discount. At some point, these guys have all the money they could ever need so if they find a place they really like, they're OK giving up some money to stay there.

 

[bleedgreen]

I still don’t think Tt left money on the table. He was rfa as well. Aho with some inflation since Tt got his only got 8.75, and for the majority of the year he carried us in a playoff season as a number one center. While they have great chemistry there’s a notable drop off between the two, and the Canes held the cards as few teams can offer him a better situation than he has here. Holding out would’ve been awful for him.

I think that aspect gets over rated a bit.

 

[Lempo]

I don't know if I'd use the words "coordinated effort" but generally speaking, when a team is good/on the rise players will tend to take a a little bit of a discount. At some point, these guys have all the money they could ever need so if they find a place they really like, they're OK giving up some money to stay there.

When they age, their empty fingers start itching for the ring they can't buy with all their money.

 

[Lempo]

I still don’t think Tt left money on the table. He was rfa as well. Aho with some inflation since Tt got his only got 8.75, and for the majority of the year he carried us in a playoff season. While they have great chemistry there’s a notable drop off between the two, and the Canes held the cards as few teams can offer him a better situation than he has here. Holding out would’ve been awful for him.

I think that aspect gets over rated a bit.

Teuvo was reportedly very happy after the signing that he had could put the contract business behind him now and concentrate on showing he's worth the money.

 

[bleedgreen]

Teuvo was reportedly very happy after the signing that he had could put the contract business behind him now and concentrate on showing he's worth the money.

I loved his attitude about it to be honest, and to me it showed he didn’t think he got too little and knew he had to prove he was worth even what he got.

 

[My Special Purpose]

There is a lot of "Aho wanted" or "Aho was thinking" explaining. The one possibility I don't see mentioned is that TT signed for 5 years. The two seem really close on and off the ice. It is possible that an additional consideration (not necessarily the primary one) for the 5-year contract was Teravainen's contract.

This is yet another reason that Carolina was hoping for more than five years. As much as they hated the signing bonuses the first two seasons, I'd be willing to bet they're more upset that they now have Aho, TT and Pesce all coming due the same summer.

Sometimes, a team has a reason for wanting a specific number of years. I honestly believe if this had been allowed to go on just a little bit longer, we'd have signed Aho to a six-year, $54 million deal that wasn't as front-loaded and we'd all be very satisfied. But again, I could be wrong and we could be looking at a Dec. 1 situation, so maybe this is better, even though it's not great.

 

[bleedgreen]

I think it’s safe to assume he and his agent wanted ufa flexibility as soon as they could get it. Which is a smart choice all players of value should want. Five years took him to the edge so of course that’s the primary reason for asking for it. We wanted to buy out some of those years so thus the fight.

And also why his AAV seems probably a bit low. If they bought out ufa years I’m sure he would’ve been in the 9-11 range it seemed he was in.

 

[RodTheBawd]

This is yet another reason that Carolina was hoping for more than five years. As much as they hated the signing bonuses the first two seasons, I'd be willing to bet they're more upset that they now have Aho, TT and Pesce all coming due the same summer.

Sometimes, a team has a reason for wanting a specific number of years. I honestly believe if this had been allowed to go on just a little bit longer, we'd have signed Aho to a six-year, $54 million deal that wasn't as front-loaded and we'd all be very satisfied. But again, I could be wrong and we could be looking at a Dec. 1 situation, so maybe this is better, even though it's not great.

I'm with you on this. I could see the Aho camp being ok with 1 extra year, and I'd hope GMBC would concede on the hardball 8. A lot happens in 5 years, though.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think it’s safe to assume he and his agent wanted ufa flexibility as soon as they could get it. Which is a smart choice all players of value should want. Five years took him to the edge so of course that’s the primary reason for asking for it. We wanted to buy out some of those years so thus the fight.

And also why his AAV seems probably a bit low. If they bought out ufa years I’m sure he would’ve been in the 9-11 range it seemed he was in.

If they wanted UFA as soon as possible, they would have insisted on a 4 year deal. They bought out 1 year of UFA with a 5 year deal.

The probably thought that was a good compromise and I don't blame them. I'd have done the same.