HF Habs: Canadiens Development Camp (July 1 to 4)

[WinterLion]

Kudos to Byron for talking to the kids. A guy that doesn't have a contract that still believes it's important to get his message through....will anybody be surprised if this guy is named soon in the development team?

I hope so... love that guy

 

[Adam Michaels]

I do not understand the non-selection of Dell'Elce.....they invited him. clearly, they then thought he was worth it. And yet, not only they go with the Russians...but they selected Middlestadt instead of him while I swear you thought Luke was the invitee and Dell'Elce was a 4th round pick..And I like Middlestadt...but Dell'Elce was worth a pick.

20+ minutes as a 20-year old in the KHL putting up 25 pts > guy in Canadian HS going to BCHL.

NCAA + WJC > guy in Canadian HS going to BCHL.

They probably had Dell'elce on their draft list, but below everyone they picked. So they invited him and he accepted. Nice that he did well. But development camp is not the place that determines who is better than who.

Both Bogdan and Mittelstadt played against better competition last year and will again this year than Dell'Elce.

 

[Whitesnake]

20+ minutes as a 20-year old in the KHL putting up 25 pts > guy in Canadian HS going to BCHL.

NCAA + WJC > guy in Canadian HS going to BCHL.

They probably had Dell'elce on their draft list, but below everyone they picked. So they invited him and he accepted. Nice that he did well. But development camp is not the place that determines who is better than who.

Both Bogdan and Mittelstadt played against better competition last year and will again this year than Dell'Elce.

Apples and oranges. Dell'Elce is one of the youngest player in the draft. Would hvae been neat for a change to draft a kid that is amongst the youngest instead of lates and overagers. And he have have fit nicely with the fact that we can offer contracts left and right.

You don't want to pass on the Russian d-man that we will see at 24 years old...fine. But we could have done without the russian goalie (though he is the only young one in that draft). Or the overager Sam Harris.....late D+1....stats isn't on his side....

While a development camp isn't the whole story, people still draw conclusions from it. Not sure why his performances wouldn't be worth noticing. I stil believe he was worth a pick instead of having him be picked next year, a pick we will have to use anyway...if we are lucky enough to pick him if he still progresses.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Apples and oranges. Dell'Elce is one of the youngest player in the draft. Would hvae been neat for a change to draft a kid that is amongst the youngest instead of lates and overagers. And he have have fit nicely with the fact that we can offer contracts left and right.

You don't want to pass on the Russian d-man that we will see at 24 years old...fine. But we could have done without the russian goalie (though he is the only young one in that draft). Or the overager Sam Harris.....late D+1....stats isn't on his side....

Canadian high school. You don't value that over KHL, NCAA or CHL or other Euro leagues.

 

[DinosaurBones]

Apples and oranges. Dell'Elce is one of the youngest player in the draft. Would hvae been neat for a change to draft a kid that is amongst the youngest instead of lates and overagers. And he have have fit nicely with the fact that we can offer contracts left and right.

You don't want to pass on the Russian d-man that we will see at 24 years old...fine. But we could have done without the russian goalie (though he is the only young one in that draft). Or the overager Sam Harris.....late D+1....stats isn't on his side....

While a development camp isn't the whole story, people still draw conclusions from it. Not sure why his performances wouldn't be worth noticing. I stil believe he was worth a pick instead of having him be picked next year, a pick we will have to use anyway...if we are lucky enough to pick him if he still progresses.

Also if the Habs like Dell'Elce enough, they cant sign him right now as he is still draft eligble, but if they invite him to training camp they can. (see Xhekaj).

 

[Treb]

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[rahad]

Guhle, Xhekaj, Reinbacher, Engstrom, Barron, Mailloux, Hutson, Harris, Trudeau
That's an impressive young group of D we have.....

That will eventually be a problem, but although Engstrom impress me also, he has a lot of competition.

Pretty sure, we will trade one or two of this group of D for a forward or a goalie. They can't all make the NHL. By bet are on Harris and Barron for a trade.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

~purifying the thread~

Engstrom-Reinbacher
Hutson-Mailloux
Guhle-Barron
Xhekaj

 

[BenchBrawl]

~purifying the thread~

Engstrom-Reinbacher
Hutson-Mailloux
Guhle-Barron
Xhekaj

Very suspect defensively.

Guhle never on the 3rd pairing.

I'd put Guhle with Mailloux.

Hutson on the 3rd to protect him at even-strength. Put him with Xhekaj.

Trade Barron.

Engstrom-Reinbacher
Guhle-Mailloux
Hutson-Xhekaj
Harris

 

[Runner77]

Pretty sure, we will trade one or two of this group of D for a forward or a goalie. They can't all make the NHL. By bet are on Harris and Barron for a trade.

Barron probably holds more value than Harris and the latter can play both sides.

Dangle Barron once Reinbacher joins the team?

 

[rahad]

Barron probably holds more value than Harris and the latter can play both sides.

Dangle Barron once Reinbacher joins the team?

You need to trade good player to get good player. Barron could got us a top 6 player in 2-3 years.

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Engstrom
Kovacevic

This is pretty much my top 4 in a couple of years. The rest are going to battle for the last 2 place available. let's not forget Matheson (only 29 years old).

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

You need to trade good player to get good player. Barron could got us a top 6 player in 2-3 years.

And it will likely be 2-3 years before any young d are moved unless HuGo decides they aren't progressing enough or they don't have enough roster spots for everyone.

 

[Anardil]

Some people are into this you know

Says the poster who previously had a R. Jeremy/Super Mario avatar!!

 

[Goldenhands]

Very suspect defensively.

Guhle never on the 3rd pairing.

I'd put Guhle with Mailloux.

Hutson on the 3rd to protect him at even-strength. Put him with Xhekaj.

Trade Barron.

Engstrom-Reinbacher
Guhle-Mailloux
Hutson-Xhekaj
Harris

I really like those pairings, there is nothing wrong to have Hutson on a third pairing if he is a bit more risky defensively, he would get easier matchups and top PP minutes. Top 4 is big, mobile and well balanced. I like it. There is still a good possibility Hutson develops his defending abilities and end up on that top 4 though, I wouldnt gamble against him since his hockey IQ is pretty high.

 

[Rapala]

You need to trade good player to get good player. Barron could got us a top 6 player in 2-3 years.

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Engstrom
Kovacevic

This is pretty much my top 4 in a couple of years. The rest are going to battle for the last 2 place available. let's not forget Matheson (only 29 years old).

Hutson would not be facing the oppositions top lines in my line up like ever. He'd likely end up paired with Engstrom.

Guhle - Reinbacher
Engstrom - Hutson
Xhekaj - Mailloux

The balance of this D corps is awesome every pairing has PMD on it.
The best defenders are paired the physical boys are paired and the exploitation lads are paired.

 

[jrom]

Xhekaj played RD sometimes in his Memorial cup run and when he played on that side in a couple of NHL games it didn’t seem to affect his game that much (compared to Harris).

Probably because forwards are not too keen on rushing him + his game is simpler. With our depth on LD it will be increasingly hard to keep him in the lineup while he can definitely hang in there as the 3rd pairing RD (upgrade over Kovacevic).

 

[Beer and Chips]

Hutson would not be facing the oppositions top lines in my line up like ever. He'd likely end up paired with Engstrom.

Guhle - Reinbacher
Engstrom - Hutson
Xhekaj - Mailloux

The balance of this D corps is awesome every pairing has PMD on it.
The best defenders are paired the physical boys are paired and the exploitation lads are paired.

If these six players develop to their ceilings we won't be able to afford all of them.

 

[SlafySZN]

I really like those pairings, there is nothing wrong to have Hutson on a third pairing if he is a bit more risky defensively, he would get easier matchups and top PP minutes. Top 4 is big, mobile and well balanced. I like it. There is still a good possibility Hutson develops his defending abilities and end up on that top 4 though, I wouldnt gamble against him since his hockey IQ is pretty high.

Hutson is better defensively than Mailloux.

He’s great 5vs5 and you need his brain and his transition game with the best players on the team.

 

[Jaynki]

We don't want Hutson playing 3rd pair.

We want him on the ice and we want him to have the puck.

Dzone start and other team top line will be Guhle - Reinbacher job.

Hutson will have ozone start and will play against weaker opposition but we assurely will want him out there a lot on the ice.