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Its not about talent eh ...
Do you want make or point here, or just flaming?
Den :
Its not about talent eh ...
Do you want make or point here, or just flaming?
I think the WJC finals show the opposite, that IT'S NOT ABOUT TALENT AT ALL .
Why? The last WJC final gives no indication to believe so. First, I don't see a talent problem with this years Russian WJC team, which will include the U18 champs. Second, I think the WJC finals show the opposite, that it's not about talent at all.
The U-18 is scheduled at the same time as the CHL playoffs.
If Russian hockey is so much more about skill, why is the RSL so low scoring?
The three last finals were lost because Russia had inferior physical play and inferior goaltending. Have no idea how to or intention to compare the talents of sorry Russians and magnificent Boyz.
Never said anything about who's more talented. But CLEARLY Russia didn't loose because it had LESS TALENT.
The three last finals were lost because Russia had inferior physical play and inferior goaltending.
...Have NO IDEA how to or INTENTION to compare the talents of sorry Russians and magnificent Boyz.
...YOU ARE FLAMING
To Reiterate : We hear this same song and dance from Russians ....everytime u lose...and frankly we're sick of it...
Like I said...Pit ALL our Best U20's vs. Yours...and we'll demonstrate in no uncertain terms , where the superior talent lies...as our boyz did in Red Deer in 1995...and as they did even more dramatically in Grand Forks in 2005
Our Grand Forks ' DREAM TEAM' was beating all the top Euro Pretenders , every game to the tune of 6-1, 7-1, 8-1....The closest game was the semi's verse Czechs...which our boyz won 3-1...course we outshot them 47-11 !!!
Canucks would like nothing better than to pit our U20 dream team ( part III ) vs. Russia's Best in an 8 game series...Just TO EXPLODE RUSSIAN MYTHS/ so we can rub our SUPERIOR TALENT...in ur smug faces...which u so richly deserve...
Alas... we DO NOT control NHL GM's....nor does Hockey Canada...so sadly, this isn't gonna happen ...BUT ONE CAN DREAM
BLS, why are you so angry? Play nice...
On most years, neigh almost all years... you DO have all ur best RUS U20's @ WJHC'a...We Dont Have all our Best...The Crosby' s, the Staal's ...they're not gonna play WJHC's at 18...much less at 19...
Put CAN's best U20's vs. Russia's best including our best U20 NHLers...and on most years we'll win decisively ...as we did in 1995 and 2005 ...
Minus ur best RSL U20's ....see Canada Russia ADT challenge...U get manhandled even by WHL , OHL & Q split squads......
u were missing Kovulchuk one year at WJHC...but missing ur best U20's is a rarity for u russians...its the norm for us Canucks...
Obviously you dislike Russians because of their 'excuses'........yet no response from you when I give examples of Canadians doing the same?
Zine :
We dont need excuses...When ALL our Best U20's were avail ...ie our ' Dream Teams' ...in 1995 and 2005...WE WON...going unbeaten & untied...and outscoring the opposition by a huge margin...
Conversely...When u had all ur best assembled in 05, 06, 07...replete with the Ovie's , Malkin's , Radulov's etc...u lost by a wide margin...
Dont tell me if u Russians had been missing the likes of Ovie or Malkin...a la Crosby & Staal for us this year...U wouldn't have even mentioned it...u would have & rightly so...so don't be hypocritical here...
If u beat ALL our best this summer...we will have no excuses...but we wont lose in a best on best U20 tourney...we'll win...imo
I'm sure Canucks want a true best on best U20 summit series...even more than Russians do...
we ended up losing 5-4 to Rus in gold game that year...a close game we might easily have won... likewise the 2004 silver / loss to USA was probably a game we shoulda have won...Fleury had a 3rd period meltdown ...anyway another close game to be sure...It seems fair to suggest that having all our best those years most likely would have been enough to tip the scales in our favour...Just as it is fair to say that most years we are missing more of our very best talent that are u...
BUT there were other years...even when the score was close...such as Winnepeg in 1999...when the run of play wasn't...That year & a couple of other times...even ALL our Best may very well...NOT have been good enough...
Having said that...I'm convinced that our Jr Talent has been quite high for some time now...So I'm fully convinced in a Best on Best U20 vs. Rus now...WE WOULD WIN...
HOPEFULLY IT WILL COME TO PASS...
CHEERS
What's this have to do with anything? They get manhandled 'cause Russia sends a 'C/D' squad....everybody knows this
Each squad Canada plays with in that tournament draws from only a quarter of the available talent in the country as they only draw from each of the 3 Major Junior leagues, excluding Junior A, College and AHL/NHL players. Wouldn't that make each team somewhat of a D squad. You are calling out BLS for making excuses, but you are doing the same thing.
you look silly -if if if who will win we see sooner or later august-september.Zine :
We dont need excuses...When ALL our Best U20's were avail ...ie our ' Dream Teams' ...in 1995 and 2005...WE WON...going unbeaten & untied...and outscoring the opposition by a huge margin...
Conversely...When u had all ur best assembled in 05, 06, 07...replete with the Ovie's , Malkin's , Radulov's etc...u lost by a wide margin...
Dont tell me if u Russians had been missing the likes of Ovie or Malkin...a la Crosby & Staal for us this year...U wouldn't have even mentioned it...u would have & rightly so...so don't be hypocritical here...
If u beat ALL our best this summer...we will have no excuses...but we wont lose in a best on best U20 tourney...we'll win...imo
I'm sure Canucks want a true best on best U20 summit series...even more than Russians do...
I agree, but I don't see it happening since we already have the World Championships. I'm going to guess they'll be played in London and Calgary since they each have 2 of the most well supported Junior teams in the country and unlike Ottawa and Vancouver aren't officially hosting a World Junior tournament yet.
Not really. Although they may average out to "C" teams, those WHL, OHL and Q squads still had several "A" and high "B" players on each team.....they were playing with high end talent while the Russians, for the most part, sent pure "C/D" squads.
Zine
That's total crap...u sent the best U20 guys u had that weren't in the Russian Super League...and even took one or two Russians from the CHL...vs. OHL, WHL & Q split squads...that's right split squads...It was Russian B team...vs Canuck C & D teams...Is it our fault that our Jr Depth is easily 5 times deeper than yours ?
it doesn’t matter if Canada plays with split squads. 90-95% of Canada’s best juniors (“A” and high “B” level players) play in the tourney at one point or another -- meaning on any given night you have a handful of your very best players….
many of your elite players play in both ( ADT ) games.
But if you're so insecure of Canada not dominating hockey that it makes you believe that Russia sends "B" teams.....by all means go ahead and keep thinking it.