Salary Cap: Can we all agree on trying to extend Johnny Boychuk?

[nmbr_24]

Boychuk along with Bergeron, Lucic, and Rask are my favorite Bruins, of course I want him back. Chara, Seidenberg, Boychuk and Hamilton is a very good top 4, among the best in the league.

Any of Seidenberg, Boychuk, or Hamilton can play in the #2 spot. That is a luxury almost no other team has. If you add in Krug as a bottom pairing and powerplay specialist and Miller or McQuaid to go along with it, it looks like a D that will be pretty great for the next few years.

Eventually Chara is going to go, but he is still an elite #1 D who was playing with a broken hand and still managing to hold the Canadiens top line in check for a huge amount of time. No other D in the league is going to do that, none.

 

[dredeye]

Please God, not 1 more year of Chara in the top 4. It's a disservice to him. He can't handle a playoff run after being relied upon so heavily, and ends up looking bad and getting trashed by the fan base.

Seids/Hamilton
Krug/ Boychuk
Chara/ McQuaid

Please...

Your better of trading him than paying him 7 million to play bottom pairing minutes.

 

[wintersej]

So with Orpik getting 5.5, and Boychuk being better and younger than Orpik and the cap going up next year, is it fair to say Boychuk could get 6.5/yr or more?

 

[acr*]

Boychuk at $4m,, yes. At $5m? NO!

Seidenberg Hamilton
Chara (_______)
Krug Miller

Upgrade Boychuk. He plays hard but he's a turkey. Fans fall in love with his once-per-month open ice hits & his 5-time-per-year "Johnny rocket".. Truth is, the guy isn't a great skater & makes bonehead decisions frequently. Love his toughness, but this is the equivalent of giving Marchand $6m...

You won't be able to upgrade Boychuk on the market with 5 million. You simply won't. Boychuk will get 6 million as a ufa.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

You won't be able to upgrade Boychuk on the market with 5 million. You simply won't. Boychuk will get 6 million as a ufa.

Ya Boychuk is getting 6m for sure, which is exactly why moving on from him now makes sense in the situation we find ourselves in today. We have some good young blueliners, so it's time to play to our organization depth here.

 

[Gee Wally]

So with Orpik getting 5.5, and Boychuk being better and younger than Orpik and the cap going up next year, is it fair to say Boychuk could get 6.5/yr or more?

Based on todays market (like lobsters) you are in the ballpark ~6 million +/- 500K i'd say.
That margin will be based on what other D are available at the time too. Supply & demand.

I liked DKH approach . Chia should offer 55 the same deal as Seids 4 for 4 and see if Johnny accepts. If not......I would package him for a RW.

But thats me.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Based on todays market (like lobsters) you are in the ballpark ~6 million +/- 500K i'd say.
That margin will be based on what other D are available at the time too. Supply & demand.

I liked DKH approach . Chia should offer 55 the same deal as Seids 4 for 4 and see if Johnny accepts. If not......I would package him for a RW.

But thats me.

You'd lose a year of Boychuk in his prime just to replace Iggy?

Beg him to take 6 years 30 mil is my suggestion. Full NTCs and everything if you got to.


I don't want him going anywhere and I don't want any part of replacing him with a UFA.

I have no idea why people think its a good idea to not have JB around in a couple years when Z and Seids are slower and still making big bucks.




Pay Krug too you cant afford his offense at these prices. Go cheap on the wings I guess.

 

[amazingcrwns]

You'd lose a year of Boychuk in his prime just to replace Iggy?

Beg him to take 6 years 30 mil is my suggestion. Full NTCs and everything if you got to.


I don't want him going anywhere and I don't want any part of replacing him with a UFA.

I have no idea why people think its a good idea to not have JB around in a couple years when Z and Seids are slower and still making big bucks.




Pay Krug too you cant afford his offense at these prices. Go cheap on the wings I guess.

I don't think the B's would attempt to replace him through UFA, I think the replacements are already in the organization in Hamilton, Krug, Bartkowski, McQuaid, Miller, and Morrow.

 

[Gee Wally]

You'd lose a year of Boychuk in his prime just to replace Iggy?

Beg him to take 6 years 30 mil is my suggestion. Full NTCs and everything if you got to.


I don't want him going anywhere and I don't want any part of replacing him with a UFA.

I have no idea why people think its a good idea to not have JB around in a couple years when Z and Seids are slower and still making big bucks.




Pay Krug too you cant afford his offense at these prices. Go cheap on the wings I guess.

Nope.

I don't think the B's would attempt to replace him through UFA, I think the replacements are already in the organization in Hamilton, Krug, Bartkowski, McQuaid, Miller, and Morrow.

Yes.

 

[kdog82]

Michael Grabner of the isles would be a great fit in Boston. 3rd liner with the best wheels in the game and kills penalties.

Id deal Boychuk and make them take Kelly

for

Grabner

 

[wintersej]

Michael Grabner of the isles would be a great fit in Boston. 3rd liner with the best wheels in the game and kills penalties.

Id deal Boychuk and make them take Kelly

for

Grabner

He is basically a better, but less consistent, Paille. I like him as a player on this team, but not at that cost, even if they take Kelly, too.

 

[kdog82]

He is basically a better, but less consistent, Paille. I like him as a player on this team, but not at that cost, even if they take Kelly, too.

Grabner as a 3rd liner would fill a huge need imo. Eriksson 1st line.

Lucic-Krejci-Eriksson
Marchand-Bergeron-Smith
Spooner/Koko-Soda-Grabner
Paiile-Campbell-Florek

 

[qc]

He is basically a better, but less consistent, Paille. I like him as a player on this team, but not at that cost, even if they take Kelly, too.

This is how I feel. I really like Grabner, but he can hardly stay consistent within the framework of a single game. The prospect of parting with Kelly AND bringing in Grabner gives me a tingly feeling inside, but I ultimately would decline because of the major hit that our D takes.

 

[bigcat188]

Sign Boychuk...move Chara.

 

[wintersej]

Boychuk at $4m,, yes. At $5m? NO!

Seidenberg Hamilton
Chara (_______)
Krug Miller

Upgrade Boychuk. He plays hard but he's a turkey. Fans fall in love with his once-per-month open ice hits & his 5-time-per-year "Johnny rocket".. Truth is, the guy isn't a great skater & makes bonehead decisions frequently. Love his toughness, but this is the equivalent of giving Marchand $6m...

Andrej Meszaros just got $4 million a year. Can't see how Boychuk doesn't cost 6+ if he hits UFA.

 

[Lobster57]

Based on todays market (like lobsters) you are in the ballpark ~6 million +/- 500K i'd say.
That margin will be based on what other D are available at the time too. Supply & demand.

I liked DKH approach . Chia should offer 55 the same deal as Seids 4 for 4 and see if Johnny accepts. If not......I would package him for a RW.

But thats me.

<McNulty> What the **** did i do?? </McNulty>

 

[Blitzkrug]

Let's see: Mezaros gets 4 million (albeit that's more for salary floor purposes), Niskanen got 5+ and Orpik got 5 and a half. Someone will throw the bank at Boychuk to the point you can't justify re-signing him at that amount. With guys like Joe Morrow in the system, i think they'll be ok.

Would much rather re-sign Krejci, but god knows how much that's gonna cost.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I really like Johnny B, but I just can't justify locking up half of my defensive core until they are old enough for AARP benefits.

If the Bruins hadn't locked up Seidenberg for 4 more years, then I would be all over keeping Johnny, but I have always seen it as an either or.

And I really don't want to see a Bruins defense in 3years with a 40 year old Chara, a 35 year old Seids, and a 33 year old Boychuck, and all having more years to come on their deal.

 

[jmeehan1985]

Sign Boychuk...move Chara.

I agree 100 percent I don't understand why that hasn't been talked about.

I would rather have 4 good years of Boychuk then 4 more declining years of Chara.

 

[David Krejci*]

Whatever they do, you do not trade him this year. He has more value to us playing out the year, and walking in free agency, than anything you'd get back for him. He isn't replaceable in our top 4. So unless you were getting a LEGIT scoring winger back for a package including him, and I mean legit difference maker, he's staying here and playing out the year and giving us our best shot at a Cup. You don't trade a guy "just to get something for him before he walks in FA" when it means weakening your shot at a Cup.

If he wants to get his market value in free agency, he'll have no problem getting 6 million on the open market. For us, we can't afford to pay him that. He is someone who I could very easily see taking less to stay here, but I wouldn't blame him one bit for taking the most money he could. If we could sign him for 5 million/per, that'd be a deal I'd do. With the cap going up in the coming years, that'll be a good number for a top of the line second pairing defenseman.

 

[Lobster57]

I agree 100 percent I don't understand why that hasn't been talked about.

I would rather have 4 good years of Boychuk then 4 more declining years of Chara.

It was talked to death in at least 2 other threads. The teams that could use Z to get over the top:

A - Can't afford him
B - Wouldn't want to give up anything approaching his value to the Bs
C - Wouldn't be contenders (even with Z) after giving up fair value for him
D - All of the above

 

[LetEmPlay]

Whatever they do, you do not trade him this year. He has more value to us playing out the year, and walking in free agency, than anything you'd get back for him. He isn't replaceable in our top 4. So unless you were getting a LEGIT scoring winger back for him, and I mean legit difference maker, he's staying here.

If he wants to get his market value in free agency, he'll have no problem getting 6 million on the open market. For us, we can't afford to pay him that. He is someone who I could very easily see taking less to stay here, but I wouldn't blame him one bit for taking the most money he could. If we could sign him for 5 million/per, that'd be a deal I'd do. With the cap going up in the coming years, that'll be a good number for a top of the line second pairing defenseman.

Finally... Play him and try to win a cup. If he walks next year, so be it. A top four with Chara Hamilton Seidenberg and Boychuk is good enough to win a cup.

Every other option the bruins have on D isn't.

 

[VanIsle]

I get everyone loves Johnny Boychuk but really $5-$6 million for this guy, really, that is insanity. I just don't see it.

I know what the open market is paying but that is getting you into cap hell.

 

[David Krejci*]

I get everyone loves Johnny Boychuk but really $5-$6 million for this guy, really, that is insanity. I just don't see it.

I know what the open market is paying but that is getting you into cap hell.

5 million for him, in the coming years with the cap going up, is a more than reasonable deal for a guy like him. I don't think we can afford to go any higher, though. He can definitely get more on the open market, which I wouldn't blame him for doing. It wouldn't surprise me to see him take less to stay though, he really loves it here and has ingrained himself in the community. I assume that they'll try to extend both him and Krejci sometime throughout the season.

 

[ashnathan]

Why am I reading a report on BruinsLife.com that JonnyB is being shopped.....ugh