C/W Pierre-Luc Dubois - Blainville-Boisbriand Armada, QMJHL (2016, 3rd, CBJ) II
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Zaddy
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That conclusion could be easy to make but I disagree. While I don't think he has the natural offensive talent that some other players have, he is a driver and makes players around him better. I'm not sure what the exact problem in CB was but Dubois plays a pro-style game and maybe he just didn't mesh well with his team. Remember both of his linemates from the previous two years were gone and sometimes you just don't find that chemistry.
Or maybe he had a bad offseason and it took him some time to fix that. Who knows? Either way, for anyone who watched this kid play for the last two years it should've been obvious that he wasn't going to stay in a funk forever and that he is a very good prospect. 20 games with subpar production wasn't going to change that.
Can you not understand comparing situations? Or is that concept lost on you. The switch and uptick once traded was very similar to what happened with Dal Colle last year. No one said he was the next Dal Colle, just pointing out the similarities to what happened with Dal Colle after going to Kingston last year. You would hope a top 5 pick regardless of teammates could drive the offense of his team.
I was just pointing out all the people with the sarcastic quotes that were inferring it is all in the past and not worrying because he is scoring now, shouldn't be getting on their high-horse.
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Around the same time as the World Junior Championships it was announced that Cape Breton had traded Dubois to a relatively new QMJHL club, Blainville-Boisbriand Armada. Many just saw this as Cape Breton opting to get what they could for Dubois while they still could to build for the future, rather than rely on the slumping forward.
It seems as if this trade has been good for all parties involved, especially Dubois. Since arriving in Blainville-Boisbriand he has played in 12 games and scored 12 goals, adding nine assists as well. The 1.75 points per game pace he is currently on is what was expected of him before the season started, and with the added expectations after being taken by Columbus third overall last summer.
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It seems as if this trade has been good for all parties involved, especially Dubois. Since arriving in Blainville-Boisbriand he has played in 12 games and scored 12 goals, adding nine assists as well. The 1.75 points per game pace he is currently on is what was expected of him before the season started, and with the added expectations after being taken by Columbus third overall last summer.
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I don't know, thats why I said I haven't watched any of Breton this year to make any conclusions so I was using a traditional assumption since his situation similiar to MDCs.
Is it possible that Breton was giving him more defensive matchups and leaving the more favorable ones to their overagers Fiore and Carozza?
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Where you guys see him next season? I think he should play vs men... AHL or a sheltered role in the NHL?
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I see him ending up much like Scott Hartnell, who went 6th OA in '00. Strong, physical, 2-way winger with good scoring who is top6 but not a truly elite guy
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Of yeah... ****. Well, he will probably destroy the Q next season, don't know how much that will develop him as a player tho.
People put too much stock into stats and junior league performance, players like Strome light up their leagues then look like cr*p at higher levels. It's good what Dubois is doing but he has to prove he can be a difference maker at higher levels. His WJC was very dissapointing imo.
chl & nhl need to do something about it
clearly players too strong for chl but not eligeable for ahl is killing development for some
its time for a revamp
even if limited to 1 player per nhl team...per yr
clearly players too strong for chl but not eligeable for ahl is killing development for some
its time for a revamp
even if limited to 1 player per nhl team...per yr
LordNeverLose
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Why would the CHL ever be in favor of that? It'd just result in them losing even more of their older higher end talent.
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WJC is still a junior tournament and not a good way to judge who will be successful at the next level. It is the same principal you just used in regards to junior leagues. Sure WJC is a slight step up from CHL but it's still juniors.
Either way, I'd say the opposite to what you're inferring to here, Dubois isn't in the Strome, Marner category where he just dominates juniors pointwise. He's likely never going to be that guy. But what I do think about Dubois is that his game will translate very well to the pro game, and that's why I was never really worried about his subpar production earlier in the season or even his disappointing WJC.
In contrast to that I've never liked Strome's game and I'd easily take Dubois over him if I was building a team with championship aspirations. Strome may have more natural offensive ability but he is lacking in all of the areas that make or break an NHLer. Skating ability, work ethic, willingness to use his body and play in traffic, defensive play. All of these are areas Dubois are good to great in and which is extremely valuable in the playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised if Strome routinely gets more points in the regular season than Dubois, but I'd still easily take Dubois over Strome with everything else he brings to the table.
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Every player has to prove they can do it in higher levels... thats why the draft is so fun and such a crap shoot. Sometimes you get a Gaudreau in the 4th round and sometimes you draft Daigle 1st overall or you get a Benn in the 5th or Yakupov 1st... Could go on but everyone understands.
The kid is 18 and had a slow start, it happens. If he had a fast start and slowed down im sure it wouldnt be the same but now that he's playing the way he should people just like to do the easy thing and look at the 1st half of the season. The guy is already 210 ish lbs so his biggest thing is getting in a professional offseason and getting used to being that big because being 6'3" 210lbs is a lot different then being 5'11" 165lbs (Mitch Marner) for example
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We can only hope. This is gonna be a pretty big off-season for him. He needs to get fully adjusted to his size and being able to play physically against men not boys.
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Last year, it was posted on the Jets boards by a poster whose company tracks corsi and other advanced metrics for CHL and AHL teams that PLD had the best relative Corsi out of all draft eligible CHL prospects or all players in the Q (can't remember which one) and it wasn't even close. So I highly doubt that your theory holds any water
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