C Shane Wright - Kingston Frontenacs, OHL (2022, 4th, SEA) Part 3

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Previous thread is getting messy and difficult to navigate through. A Part 3 will help with that.

Still the Projected #1 overall pick. Will Montreal pick him?

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[LeProspector]

At the 2021 draft, I believe Jeff Gorton said something along the lines of “I don’t want to draft a kid that has had a beard since he was 15”. Alluding to the fact he didn’t like drafting kids that are more physically mature than their peers and relyed on that to put up numbers.

He is now with the Canadiens and is poised to draft a kid at #1 who has had the ability to grow a beard since he was 15. Just funny really.

 

[SlafySZN]

At the 2021 draft, I believe Jeff Gorton said something along the lines of “I don’t want to draft a kid that has had a beard since he was 15”. Alluding to the fact he didn’t like drafting kids that are more physically mature than their peers and relyed on that to put up numbers.

He is now with the Canadiens and is poised to draft a kid at #1 who has had the ability to grow a beard since he was 15. Just funny really.

Haha yes

he said ''the thing that's interesting with the Hughes brothers is that they all look 15 it tells me there's room for a lot of growth, as a GM you don't want guy with a full beard showing up at your table''

 

[ponder]

It’s a bit of a dumb quote - guys like Matthews, MacKinnon, Ovechkin, Eichel, Ekblad and Hedman were very physically mature on draft day, but still excellent top 2 picks.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

It’s a bit of a dumb quote - guys like Matthews, MacKinnon, Ovechkin, Eichel, Ekblad and Hedman were very physically mature on draft day, but still excellent top 2 picks.

And they were all much better than Wright in their draft years.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

HF's obsession with Wright's ability to grow facial hair at a young age as a knock on him is one of the nuttier things I've seen on the prospects board.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Let's get everyone's projections for Shane Wright in this thread. We can do projection for next year, and projection for his career if you like. I'll go first:

I think he'll play in the NHL next year and put up around 50 points. He'll end up being a PPG+ center in his prime years.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Let's get everyone's projections for Shane Wright in this thread. We can do projection for next year, and projection for his career if you like. I'll go first:

I think he'll play in the NHL next year and put up around 50 points. He'll end up being a PPG+ center in his prime years.

30ish points in the NHL next year.. top years are 70ish points.

 

[Legion34]

It’s a bit of a dumb quote - guys like Matthews, MacKinnon, Ovechkin, Eichel, Ekblad and Hedman were very physically mature on draft day, but still excellent top 2 picks.

The difference with all save mack is that the rest had showed their ability to play and excel against much older people. Eichel played college and the rest played against 30 year old men

 

[tmlmatus]

Let's get everyone's projections for Shane Wright in this thread. We can do projection for next year, and projection for his career if you like. I'll go first:

I think he'll play in the NHL next year and put up around 50 points. He'll end up being a PPG+ center in his prime years.

His absolute ceiling is Tavares; but I think he will become a very good two way 50-70 point center over his career.

He'll play most of his season in the OHL next season

 

[Wats]

Think he'll start slow and finish with ~40 points in the NHL next season depending on icetime. His career IMO will be a 60-70 point C that will get some Selke votes but never actually be a finalist.

 

[Peasy]

Shane Wright not at the top of another list (hockey prospects). A lot of Hab fans still think this is just all for media attention lol?

Next season he will put up around 40 points. Career wise he will be like a ~70 point dude in his prime.

 

[Benstheman]

Shane Wright not at the top of another list (hockey prospects). A lot of Hab fans still think this is just all for media attention lol?

Next season he will put up around 40 points. Career wise he will be like a ~70 point dude in his prime.

Yep

 

[FliegerKorps]

And they were all much better than Wright in their draft years

When it comes to obsession for a prospect, you absolutely win the award.

 

[Wats]

Shane Wright not at the top of another list (hockey prospects). A lot of Hab fans still think this is just all for media attention lol?

IMO bit of a weird comment. As a Habs fan, I rather have the consensus. There's a couple of lists (Pronman is the other I know, are there more?) with him 2nd.

Last time Pronman went against consensus - Laine over Matthews when Leafs picked 1st.
Wonder when is the last time HockeyProspect went against consensus/rest of the pack?

Like with all the hate Wright gets, why would it be better to pick a giant prospect who did well in small samples but not really in the pro league he's playing in. Staf is 6'4'' 229lbs, how much room does he really have to improve physically if we're going to question Wright for preforming against juniors? I don't get what the obsession is to try to make it seem like Wright shouldn't go 1st/Habs fans shouldn't want him.

 

[RandomTask26]

I'd say 40 points next year.

If league scoring remains like it was this year, he'll average ~80 points for most of his career (say age 20-32)

 

[Peasy]

IMO bit of a weird comment. As a Habs fan, I rather have the consensus. There's a couple of lists (Pronman is the other I know, are there more?) with him 2nd.

Last time Pronman went against consensus - Laine over Matthews when Leafs picked 1st.
Wonder when is the last time HockeyProspect went against consensus/rest of the pack?

Like with all the hate Wright gets, why would it be better to pick a giant prospect who did well in small samples but not really in the pro league he's playing in. Staf is 6'4'' 229lbs, how much room does he really have to improve physically if we're going to question Wright for preforming against juniors? I don't get what the obsession is to try to make it seem like Wright shouldn't go 1st/Habs fans shouldn't want him.

Its more so the narrative that hab fans are generating that it is asinine to think someone other than Wright should go first overall, and if you do think someone else should it is just purely for clicks and ratings.

Like no, the world isnt out to get you lol. Theyve been peddling this narrative since they won the lottery, and the closer it gets to the draft, Wright continues to fall out of favour with a lot of the scouting world.

I brought up my concerns about Wright back in November but apparently now I only think this way because the Habs won the lottery.

I predict when we see McKenzie's rankings, probably only 5/10 scouts will have Wright at 1.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

When it comes to obsession for a prospect, you absolutely win the award.

Someone's upset that I'm making points they can't refute...

Focus less on me and more on the content next time.

 

[THE HOFF]

Haven't seen him play a lot. I still think its one of those guys you have to take. The probability of him not being a contributor within a year or two is zero. His ceiling may be lower than what some have in mind, but that's not a pick you start thinking outside the box about.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

I wouldn't rush him into the league next year, given he missed a whole season due to covid.

 

[FliegerKorps]

Someone's upset that I'm making points they can't refute...

Focus less on me and more on the content next time.

Not even once did i intervene regarding prospects. My choice wouldn't even be Wright.

My point still stand : There's some weird obsession. It's most likely mingled with a deep hatred for the habs and fans as well as some missplaced pride.


Technically, that's regular HFboards stuff. But even based on those standards, you went overboard ahah

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

16 more days until we draft Wright

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Not even once did i intervene regarding prospects. My choice wouldn't even be Wright.

My point still stand : There's some weird obsession. It's most likely mingled with a deep hatred for the habs and fans as well as some missplaced pride.


Technically, that's regular HFboards stuff. But even based on those standards, you went overboard ahah

The fact that you think my opinion on the player has anything to do with the Habs is pretty laughable.

 

[Wats]

Its more so the narrative that hab fans are generating that it is asinine to think someone other than Wright should go first overall, and if you do think someone else should it is just purely for clicks and ratings.

Like no, the world isnt out to get you lol. Theyve been peddling this narrative since they won the lottery, and the closer it gets to the draft, Wright continues to fall out of favour with a lot of the scouting world.

I brought up my concerns about Wright back in November but apparently now I only think this way because the Habs won the lottery.

I predict when we see McKenzie's rankings, probably only 5/10 scouts will have Wright at 1.

The way you say fall out of favour makes it sound like there are a lot of rankings, but we're in late June. Who else has put someone else at #1? There's Pronman, HockeyProspect, and who else? Curious because to me seems like most people have Wright #1, just like most draft years without a guy like McDavid. Even Matthews wasn't unanimously #1 ranked in the scouting world.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Wright is a superstar. Just believe considering the draft, he's a no brainer at #1. There's no one that's a mix of safe/upside that can dethrone him to be an actual #1 overall pick. Not to say they won't be better players, just it's not common for #1 overall picks to have as much question marks like Staf.

 

[ponder]

The difference with all save mack is that the rest had showed their ability to play and excel against much older people. Eichel played college and the rest played against 30 year old men

Ekblad didn’t play against 30 year old men either, he was an OHLer. True of the rest, though.

Anyways, I’m not saying Wright is as good a prospect as the above, I don’t think he is. Just saying that being physically mature isn’t some major strike against a prospect.