McMichael had a great season.
Also, about Rossi, people forget he is not Canadian, had to go through some adjustments as a Euro in CHL
C Marco Rossi - Ottawa 67’s, OHL (2020 Draft)
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McMichael had a great season.
Also, about Rossi, people forget he is not Canadian, had to go through some adjustments as a Euro in CHL
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I was all for Rossi at 4 but as someone said, I question whether a 5’9 forward can make it in the NHL. There’s zero active players that size that have more than 30 points.
Convince me otherwise.
Convince me otherwise.
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I don't want the Wings to take Rossi at 4. And we desperately need a skilled C.
He's small. But he's well built. He's one of the oldest guys in the draft. He's already played pro. So he was having a blast playing junior kids who aren't physically mature.
I just don't see it.
If you're arguing that Rossi is the best tiny center in 25 years, yeah, I guess so.
Otherwise, when was the last time a 5'9 or shorter NHLer was effective at center?
He's small. But he's well built. He's one of the oldest guys in the draft. He's already played pro. So he was having a blast playing junior kids who aren't physically mature.
I just don't see it.
If you're arguing that Rossi is the best tiny center in 25 years, yeah, I guess so.
Otherwise, when was the last time a 5'9 or shorter NHLer was effective at center?
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I can't even.....the shit Rossi gets here...unreal.
- even those who think he is going to do well/great in the NHL
don't believe that he will be a center in the NHL,...
And what comes to his height, he was 5 foot 9 in the beginning of 18-19 season
and people think he hasn't grown since????.
One who takes a closer look and compares him (in his highlights from this season)
to other players on the ice can see that. - that he isn't 5 foot 9
Besides, 5 foot 9 player is almost as tall as a player who is 5 foot 10. (very little differene)
Which makes it super funny, calling a player of 5 foot 9 tiny, (too small) but 5 foot 10 is okay.
- so it doesn't matter the slightest if he is a 5 foot 9 center or a 5 foot 10 center
- even those who think he is going to do well/great in the NHL
don't believe that he will be a center in the NHL,...
And what comes to his height, he was 5 foot 9 in the beginning of 18-19 season
and people think he hasn't grown since????.
One who takes a closer look and compares him (in his highlights from this season)
to other players on the ice can see that. - that he isn't 5 foot 9
Besides, 5 foot 9 player is almost as tall as a player who is 5 foot 10. (very little differene)
Which makes it super funny, calling a player of 5 foot 9 tiny, (too small) but 5 foot 10 is okay.
- so it doesn't matter the slightest if he is a 5 foot 9 center or a 5 foot 10 center
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Most 5'9 centers werent putting up over 2 points/game in the OHL.
Henkka
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Would be nice to see Habs finally adding some size to their offence.
Scintillating10
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Not the way our luck goes. After the lottery focused on Sanderson. On the bright side he is what we need. A mobile first pairing left D with size.
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Low center of gravity like Marchand and Crosby. It's more of a hockey build than some of these lanky kids who struggle to add mass.
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He is small. True, but he is just like 3 cm smaller than Crosby or Datsyuk, 1 cm smaller that Point. Besides, maybe he has grown a bit.
He is well built. True, but how is that a bad thing? Crosby was drafted with 5'11 196 and nobody was saying smth like "he is dominating because he is physically advanced"
He is one of the oldest players in draft. Yes, he also had 120 pts and won MVP.
He has played pro. At 15. Kinda proves he is a huge talent.
Was having a blast playing against physically not mature kids- Well, as you mentioned, he is still a small guy, and while one of the oldest at the draft, still younger than most players in OHL. He has a historic season for a 1-st time drafted player. Besides, he is a euro, who still had to go through some adjustment.
To summarize, my point is: if you want to use some evidence against Rossi, then it could work if he had just a good season and was getting carried by some super linemate. Kinda like Sam Gagner back in the day. But Rossi didn't have just a good season, he had a historic season, got MVP and outscored Lafreniere, I mean, what else he should have done? 200 pts?
I want Rossi at 4 and I think he is overscouted at this point. A narrative was made on why Rossi is lower than Byfield when he outscored him so much and people are now taking all of this "he is small" "he played pro" "he is physically advanced" too seriously, so now this "evidence" doesn't just prove that Byfield is higher, but also proves that Rossi isn't even TOP 5 material and 120 pts plus OHL MVP don't matter at all.
Another thing that hurts Rossi is the fact that he is an austrian, and while Stutzle showcased his talents at WJC and everybody is convinced he is a new big prospect from Germany, Rossi had no such opportunity.
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Out of Byfield and Rossi - one guy is closer to his ceiling than the other. And the one with way more potential is Byfield.
It's for a lot of those reasons you just listed, including age.
I mean, get mad if you want, but in my list I still had the kid going in the top 8 to Buffalo.
I remember people suggesting Cole Caufield should go top 5 last year. And if he was 5'11, he would have.
But he went 13th.
Yes, people make justifications for why Byfield should be higher. I personally am not high on Byfield. I don't watch OHL, but when I saw him at international level, he was underwhelming, reminded me of Kirill Petrov, who used to be really hyped in 2007.
However, that's my personal take. What I find interesting is that no one is using "he is big" argument against Byfield, who is one of the biggest players in OHL at 6'5 220. But people are making a big deal about the fact, that Rossi is well developed.
Caufield played in a weak league and is 5'7, come on, not a great comparison.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Tyler Johnson and David Desharnais. But I agree with your point. Those two guys were not highly regarded prospects. They had to beat the odds to reach the league and prove themselves to an extent others didn’t have to.
The red carpet meanwhile has been rolled out for Rossi. All these people have decided that what has mattered in the past and what has been the usual evaluation of a player like Rossi no longer applies. This is the guy they’re betting on.
Personally, I’m not going to do that. I’m not going to say he needs to be ranked as a 7th rounder or undrafted guy because he’s a 5’9 center, considering you can shift him to winger and there’s examples of successful 5’9 wingers. But his game comes with risk and many don’t want to account for that. I think you have to properly account for the risk in how you rank him.
Pavel Buchnevich
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It might seem trivial and it may turn out to be, but historically it has mattered. Are you willing to completely cast aside the recent history of the league?
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Nikishin turning heads.
It really should be quite fascinating to follow Rossi’s journey. On the one hand, the negatives are quantifiable and, perhaps, reasonable (age, size, country). But on the other hand, he really just simply passes the eye-test. He’s so good that he is being ranked as a potential top-4 pick despite the “drawbacks”. So personally I will be enjoying sitting back and watching the show.
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