Butch's Top 130 Prospects

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    Hey guys ! Finally posting it after receiving couple of PM . Here my annual top prospect list . Few thing to know before reading it :
    - No goalie because i have 0 knowledge of the position
    - I'm a skills coach/scout in the Q so no player from the Q included for no bia . Lot of player could en up here
    - I'm a french canadian with , so my first language is french that why my bad english . I'm open to question/comment and i will respond



    Few take on the list :
    - Bowen Byram is my less good player who went first overall . It's the first time that i'm not call a futur star with the first player like the last list with Kaako,Hughes,Hughes,Makar,Connor etc . I fall in love with him at the last draft but this year my hype was not kept . But i'm a scout that his list doesn't change that much so i give him the benefit of doubt . I think he will end up like a Ryan Suter style , capable of playing 30 min a night in playoff but not put that much points . Very mobile and mature but he don't have the special savor of Maker or Hughes .
    - Kaprizov going third because is the only one in the list that i can call that he will make +70 its a year and very soon . So dynamic and dangerous on the rush
    - Zegras is 4 not because of the WJC . He was 4 on my list last year . IQ is special and his skillset is pretty good .
    - Caufield will score lot of goal in the NHL . I'm a skills and what i like more to teach it is how to score goal . Caufield do all what i teach . Always playing on his opposite leg to play chess game with the goalie . His shoot his special , and his IQ Shooting much more.
    - Batherson is the next Mark Stone . Will put 30+30 a year with great defensive capacities
    - Couple player that they don't had good year is still high , i know . I don't change my ranking because of their point or <<result>> I change my ranking only if i think the player don't progress well or if i was wrong at the time . Give time to these player to develop , 1/2 year it's not enough to abandon on player.
    Last List :
    Butch's top 150 Prospect List
    Butch List 115
    Butch's List of the top 175 Drafted Prospects


    1. Bowen Byram
    2. Erik Branstrom
    3. Kirill Kaprizov
    4. Trevor Zegras
    5. Dylan Cozens
    6. Kirby Dach
    7. Adam Boqvist
    8. Cole Caufield
    9. Rasmus Sandin
    10. Alex Turcotte
    11. Barrett Hayton
    12. Ville Heinola
    13. Vitali Kravstov
    14. Filip Zadina
    15. Evan Bouchard
    16. Moritz Seider
    17. Drake Batherson
    18. Ryan Poehling
    19. Joel Farabe
    20. Joseph Veleno
    21. Vasili Podkolzin
    22. Ty Smith
    23. Timothy Liljegren
    24. Noah Dobson
    25. Alexander Romanov
    26. Tyler Madden
    27. Phillip Broberg
    28. Max Comtois
    29. Morgan Frost
    30. Grigori Denisenko
    31. Thomas Harley
    32. Conor Timmins
    33. Dmitri Voronkov
    34. Victor Sodestrom
    35. Casey Mittelstadt
    36. Nils Hoglander
    37. Jonatan Berggren
    38. Oliver Wahlstrom
    39. Eeli Tolvanen
    40. Jason Robertson
    41. Kristian Vesalainen
    42. Cam York
    43. Alex Newhook
    44. Samuel Fagemo
    45. Logan Brown
    46. Mattias Norlinder
    47. Dominic Bokk
    48. Ryan Merkley
    49. Rasmus Kupari
    50. Aleksi Heponiemi
    51. Pavel Dorofeyev
    52. Josh Norris
    53. Owen Tippet
    54. Shane Bowers
    55. Matthews Boldy
    56. Nils Lunkvist
    57. Kale Clague
    58. Jordan Kyrou
    59. Arthur Kaliyev
    60. Tobias Bjornfot
    61. K'Andre Miller
    62. Nolan Foote
    63. Jordan Harris
    64. Urho Vaakanainen
    65. Peyton Krebs
    66. Connor McNichael
    67. Lassi Thomson
    68. Callan Foote
    69. Phillip Tomasino
    70. Michael Rasmussen
    71. Kailer Yamamoto
    72. Klim Kostin
    73. Janne Kuokkanen
    74. Alex Barre-Boulet
    75. Martin Kaut
    76. Nicholas Robertson
    77. Ian Mitchell
    78. Josh Mahura
    79. Scott Perunovich
    80. Evan Barratt
    81. Jeremy Bracco
    82. Caleb Jones
    83. Jaret Anderson-Dolan
    84. Gabriel Vilardi
    85. Alex Formenton
    86. Josh Brook
    87. Bode Wilde
    88. Bobby Brink
    89. Brayden Tracey
    90. Jet Woo
    91. Calen Addison
    92. Alex Vlasic
    93. Jan Jenik
    94. Tyler Benson
    95. Matias Maccelli
    96. Dmitri Samorukov
    97. Jack Studnicka
    98. Shane Pinto
    99. Akil Thomas
    100. Ty Dellandrea
    101. Dylan Samberg
    102. John Beecher
    103. Yegor Rykov
    104. Filip Hallander
    105. Anttoni Honka
    106. Jesse Ylonen
    107. Jayden Struble
    108. Jansen Harkins
    109. Dillon Dube
    110. Rudolf Balcers
    111. Alexander Volkov
    112. Jack Dugan
    113. Nic Beaudin
    114. Patrik Puistola
    115. Serron Noel
    116. Mikko Kokkonen
    117. Jake Bean
    118. Otto Koivula
    119. Sasha Chmelevski
    120. Yegor Zamula
    121. Tyler Raddysh
    122. Mitchell Stephens
    123. Liam Foudy
    124. Lawrence Pilut
    125. Jacob Bernard-Docker
    126. Ryan Johnson
    127. Martin Fehérváry
    128. Rasmus Asplund
    129. Lucas Elvenes
    130. Kole Lind


    Top 10 NEXT DRAFT
    1. Tim Stuztle
    2. Jamie Drysdale
    3. Lucas Raymond
    4. Quinton Byfield
    5. Cole Perfetti
    6. Marco Rossi
    7. Anton Lundell
    8. Alexander Holtz
    9. Antonio Stranges
    10. Noel Gunler

    Top 10 advance with a franchise (u23)
    1. Connor McDavid
    2. Auston Matthews
    3. Cale Makar
    4. Thomas Chabot
    5. Quinn Hughes
    6. Rasmus Dahlin
    7. Elias Pettersson
    8. Miro Heiskanen
    9. Mitchell Marner
    10. Matthew Barzal
    11. Jack Hughes
    12. Evgeni Svechnikov
    13. Sebastian Aho
    14. Kaapo Kakko
    15. Matthew Tkachuk
    16. Zach Werenski
    17. Adam Fox
    18. Ivan Provorov
    19. Brock Boeser
    20. P-L Dubois
    21. Bowen Byram
    22. Erik Branstrom
    23. Alex DeBrincat
    24. Clayton Keller
    25. Dylan Strome
     
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    List appreciated , I know not easy making these lists as to players can move up or down drastically depends on which metric one uses, would have liked to see Q players included to heck with if anyone thinks there's bias or not, everyone shouldn't be so serious - cheers!
     
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    thanks buddy

    For Q player , is because 4-5 player on my team could end up ranked here, and the other player is direct competitor so. I don’t put them to be okay with everybody if they see the list
     
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    Not a Beckman fan? Also, you seem light on NCAA Players
     
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    Hard for me to follow honestly. An overager who’s not playing on international stage , it’s take 2 year to see him enough to put him at the good place.
    So yeah a guy drafted in 5-6-7 round, never play team usa, no jrn A , no NHL pre season, no rookie game...It will take time to appreciate the player. Except if he play at 2-4 university that i see more
     
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    Everyone has different opinions but I’m not a big fan of this list. Just one example, what’s the reasoning for Bowers, Norlinder, Berggren above Nils Lundkvist? Lundkvist is setting records in the SHL and leads his team in points as a defenseman whose been known for his defensive game
     
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    No Khovanov as well. Unless I’ve missed him the few times I scrolled through the list
     
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    No players from the Q as he stated in his OP.
     
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    Do you have Lafreniere in your top-10 for the 2020 draft?
     
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    Studnicka 79 spots lower than Poehling is a head scratcher. He's a better prospect IMO.
     
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    Man are you ever high on Erik Brannstrom. Nice player but way too highly ranked imo.
     
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    I was a bit puzzled with the Brannstrom love, also.
    Oh, and Beckman is not an overager. He was picked in his first eligible draft year.
     
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    Obviously , yess....
     
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    Where is Lafreniere?
     
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    Try reading the opening segment.
     
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    Amazing how many people have a truly putrid ability to actually read....


    Anyway, always respect a list this size. Especially respect the list for attempting to remove any bias by not rankings players from the league you scout.


    Like with any list, there's certainly some aspects of it I disagree with. As an Avs fan I think Newhook is significantly lower than he should be but you also kind of explained a reason for that already by not getting to see him play as much as others being that he's an NCAA guy.


    That said.... Of the Avs prospects you have ranked, you have them in the following order:


    Byram
    Timmins
    Newhook
    Bowers
    Kaut


    This is almost the exact order I personally would have them ranked as well with the only exception being I'd have Kovalenko ranked above Kaut.
     
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    Is Rantanen eligible for the u23 list?
     
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    I have a lot of comment like that in my last ranking . My ranking is not about stats or record or whatever...

    Scouting is a inexact science. Player will play 3 wow game , 10 very good game , 30 game ok and 5 disaster game . If i see him 5 time , and i see his 5 disaster game...Yeah i will have the player very low if we compare with another scout who see is 3 wow game . My ranking IS not about stats .

    But i'm skills coach , so i have (i think) specific knowledge about skating, shooting,stickhandling and what i call SKILLS IQ. I see the game very differently than other scout for sur.


    Bowers for me is a top speed player , NHL Locker . The ceiling is not that high but is high pace is very rare and a NHL lock as a value in the ranking

    Norlinder is the pure skills , one of the best edging skills in this list . Is skater ability and his Skills IQ is awesome . His ceiling is very very very vey high for me . If i rank player about their ceiling , he go top 3-5

    Berggren was top 10 in my draft ranking . I give him 1 year to be good as he was a 17 year old. Always head up in the corner , make play , shifty .

    I compare Lunkvist with Markov . Not that fast , but very mobile and high IQ on the BO/Regroupe . He don't have the fire power of Norlinder if we compare the two player . Norlinder is more a running back and Lundkvist a QB . I think Lunkvist will play in the NHL but i don't except match than i see now . But again , is my scouting view and we can put 10 very good scout in a room and nobody will have the same list . Maybe i'm wrong , never say that i had a super power to evaluate prospect .
     
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    Thanks for the feedback . Nice to see that i have the same ranking as you , knowing that you will follow more than me COL prospect
     
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    I don't put Q guy , because i coach in the Q. Read it
     
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    I think is the less good 1 to 10 core in the last 4 year. Byram to Romanov is close for me and in the previous is was different with player like Chabot or Hughes definitely in front of the other player . Why i keep Branstrom so high it's his comprehension of how beat pressure , aside with his mobility.

    But like Byram , i can said that he will be a super star . His top speed is okay but no exceptional here , samething about all of his tools .
     
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    Maybe. Poehling is on my radar for awhile and my projection of him don't change. I will not change my ranking because the production of Stud is far better.
     
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    Skimmed over it. My bad. Thanks for the list btw. I like how you have Stutzle quite high. Also, what's your opinion on Byfield and Rossi?
     
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    The Bowers argument doesn’t make much sense. I’d think that Lundkvist is actually the safer prospect than Bowers, and was always considered a low ceiling/high floor defenseman up until this season where he absolutely exploded offensively. I think that Markov comp is way off as well, I’d compare him to Anton Stralman. Nils Lundkvist is actually younger than Norlinder as well and is producing at a better pace ( 22 points in 29 games) and leads his SHL team in scoring. Norlinder is 12th in scoring on his Allsvenskan team with 15 in 32. And Norlinder is considered to be much weaker defensively than Lundkvist, I really can’t see anyone taking Norlinder over Lundkvist. Not going to argue your own opinion though, everyone does have completely different lists and I respect that
     
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    Ahhhh, A great list, Thank you!

    It is always interesting to read how others see certain players. I appreciate your insight.

    I have a question about a player not on your list...…..maybe you can help me?

    Could you comment on Jack Rathbone of Harvard

    In particular, I would really like to here how he compares to, two recent graduates

    Please, how does he compare to Adan Fox (NYR) and John Marino (Pitts)

    I realize he is not as strong as Fox, but want to get a handle on if he will be a candidate for our Canucks

    Thanks
     
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