Proposal: Buffalo/Ottawa

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

sabres need to add here. you dont go from risto to karlsson just by taking on a bad contract.


Karlsson
Ryan

for

Risto
Nylander
Samuelsson

As an outsider...that's not bad.

 

[sabrebuild]

It’s not that bad and Buffalo would add pieces to that.

But you gotta think Ottawa will want a big pile of assets do it looks more impressive. And zero chance they get right before Risto’s deal runs.

 

[hizzoner]

I would not care for the deal. Too much money tied up and while EK is a tremendous player Sabres also need snarl on D and Risto gives that.

 

[Yatzhee]

yea, as a Sabres fan, you can keep Karlsson. Hell of a player, but not worth the assets we'd have to give up. We went through this with Tim Murray, someone else can have Karlsson, we'll keep our assets. But thanks for thinking of us.

 

[BB88]

Eichel
Karlsson
Ryan
Okposo
About 36M tied up.

To me doesn't sound that great.

 

[DictatorTots427]

Ottawa would be lucky to get this. Karlsson needs to be traded ASAP, and they get to dump Ryan, and then get a good young top 4 RHD. I would take this in a heartbeat if I were Ottawa.

 

[AndreRoy]

It’s not that bad and Buffalo would add pieces to that.

But you gotta think Ottawa will want a big pile of assets do it looks more impressive. And zero chance they get right before Risto’s deal runs.

Maybe, if Karlsson signed an extension first and Ryan wasn’t in the deal. But for only a year guaranteed of Karlsson and Ryan’s albatross contract thrown in? Ottawa would be lucky to get any positive value at that point, much less a good young top four RHD like Risto.

 

[krt88nc]

Lol, like Buffalo could afford to give Karlsson 10+ million per year with Eichel and Dahlin down the road. Plus we’d take on Ryan’s awful contract.

No no no

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Hahahahaha, Absolutely not. More like, Ristolainen + Reinhart + 1st (unprotected)

 

[Seras]

Can EK please just walk at the end of the season and go play out west? Thank you.

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

Hahahahaha, Absolutely not. More like, Ristolainen + Reinhart + 1st (unprotected)

Yeah right lmao

 

[sabrebuild]

Maybe, if Karlsson signed an extension first and Ryan wasn’t in the deal. But for only a year guaranteed of Karlsson and Ryan’s albatross contract thrown in? Ottawa would be lucky to get any positive value at that point, much less a good young top four RHD like Risto.

Your crazy. A year at that rate has more value than Bobby Ryan has negative. And obviously your taking a chance on locking him up, but you only do it if your confident you have a real shot.

Buffalo’s young core with him and Dahlin could entice him to stay long term.

It won’t happen, but not bad value.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

Sens need much more. Quantity of picks/prospects or throw Reinhart in as well.

 

[topshelf15]

Yeah Buffalo makes no sense,they dont need EK right now ....

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Yeah right lmao

Yeah we're not trading the best defenseman in the league signed to an extention to a divisional rival.

Hahahahah!

 

[branch]

Maybe, if Karlsson signed an extension first and Ryan wasn’t in the deal. But for only a year guaranteed of Karlsson and Ryan’s albatross contract thrown in? Ottawa would be lucky to get any positive value at that point, much less a good young top four RHD like Risto.

Oh great it’s this guy again

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

Yeah we're not trading the best defenseman in the league signed to an extention to a divisional rival.

Hahahahah!

Don't blame you. On the other hand Buffalo isn't giving you a ton of there best young assets to obtain 18 million in cap. 7 of which is useless for the next 4 years. That's just absurd.

 

[Flyerfan52]

Yeah we're not trading the best defenseman in the league signed to an extention to a divisional rival.

Hahahahah!

The only divisional rival Ottawa will have in the race to the bottom will be Montreal. The inept management in both cities pretty well guarantees that.

As to the trade, Risto is too much to gamble on the hope of re-signing Karlsson if Buffalo has to take on 4 years of Ryan @ 7.25. In fact the combined cap hit of 18.25+ should Karlsson re-up while giving up the reasonable 5.4 on a dang good D isn't good for cap management.

Not a Sabres fan but if I were I'd counter with Reinhart's RFA rights for Karlsson & a 40% retained Ryan.

Karlsson alone is worth a good package even if only for 1 year & 1st negotiation rights. Attaching the Ryan contract drops that value a lot (especially since that hit remains even if Karlsson doesn't re-sign).

 

[AndreRoy]

The only divisional rival Ottawa will have in the race to the bottom will be Montreal. The inept management in both cities pretty well guarantees that.

As to the trade, Risto is too much to gamble on the hope of re-signing Karlsson if Buffalo has to take on 4 years of Ryan @ 7.25. In fact the combined cap hit of 18.25+ should Karlsson re-up while giving up the reasonable 5.4 on a dang good D isn't good for cap management.

Not a Sabres fan but if I were I'd counter with Reinhart's RFA rights for Karlsson & a 40% retained Ryan.

Karlsson alone is worth a good package even if only for 1 year & 1st negotiation rights. Attaching the Ryan contract drops that value a lot (especially since that hit remains even if Karlsson doesn't re-sign).

This.

 

[Digable5]

Yeah we're not trading the best defenseman in the league signed to an extention to a divisional rival.

Hahahahah!

Right. Trade him to SJS for a 2nd round pick and we’ll give THEM Ristolainen for him.

 

[Howie Hodge]

I seriously believe that it should be a ban-able offence to drop into a thread and say it should be closed.

Yes, it needs to be added to the list of things we hate reading on these boards thread maybe.

Novel idea; if someone doesn't like a thread, move along to another.

Much easier that way.

 

[5 Minute Major]

Hahahahaha, Absolutely not. More like, Ristolainen + Reinhart + 1st (unprotected)

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

To Buffalo Ryan + Karlsson (signed)

To Ottawa Ristolainen

Ottawa gets rid of Ryan and gets a young stud defenceman back.

Buffalo gets a perfect mentor for Dahlin and will have an elite defensive duo for the next 6-8 years, along with Eichel and several other young guns.

Karlsson would probably never agree to an extension with Buffalo, but just in terms of value.

Would either team do it?

 

[PatrikBerglund]

Yes, it needs to be added to the list of things we hate reading on these boards thread maybe.

Novel idea; if someone doesn't like a thread, move along to another.

Much easier that way.

Exactly.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

No thanks. We're not interested in taking on that abysmal contract in Bobby Ryan. There is also ZERO guarantee that Karlsson would sign an extension in Buffalo. This is the easiest pass yet.