Paxon
202* Stanley Cup Champions
1. Irrelevant. No matter what Spooner has shown to be at least a "serviceable" player. You think he wouldn't be in our top 9 as of now? He easily would. It doesn't matter if we retained salary in the Boston deal or not, it was a better return end of story.
2.Again Irrelevant. It wouldn't be past 2017. Spooner+BOS 2nd>>>MIN 2017 2nd.
3.Same Spooner. Again, irrelavant. He would be in our starting lineup game in and game out . Only 23. Younger then trash like Schaller and Dalpe and probably will have a much better career.
4.I really don't think it was Murray's choice to take one in 2017 more like Minnesota decided when it was considering they have dealt a ton of their 2nds lately. Trying to spin us getting a 2nd three drafts from now as a boon is funny.
5. Nah, there were better picks to be made. His draft was downright sad for how many picks we had. Cornel and Karabacek are long shots to be NHL players. Not what you want from your high 2nd rounders
Again, Murray ****ed up. No getting around it. Spooner is nothing special but to say he wouldn't be in Buffalo right now and especially not playing good minutes is patently false. Murray pulled a Regier and lost. Next time don't try to make the other team blink.
You're right about salary retention. At best it's irrelevant, but if we weren't retaining salary in that deal it'd have made it even better, so it's a poor point for Zip. I have no doubt salary retention would've been part of that deal though. There's no question Boston's 2nd + Spooner is a better deal than what we got, but that doesn't mean I think he screwed up. If it were Subban + a 2nd I'd say he screwed up. He took a calculated risk that he could get a better offer and it didn't work out. If he came close to a better deal, that opportunity was worth losing out on Spooner, a player I couldn't care less about having. If you feel differently about Spooner that should give you a different perspective, of course. You can't judge decision-making solely on outcomes, otherwise every time a player takes a shot and doesn't score we'd say he should have passed, etc. I disagree about the value of a pick in 2017. It's exactly the kind of thing I wanted to see us do. Spreading out picks is a good thing. We need a steady stream of potential young players coming in every year. That need becomes greater in the future, not lesser.
As to the draft, I'm not enamored with it either, but there's a reason Murray was willing to trade all three 2nd's and no one accepted. It was a poor class starting in the 2nd round. Let's give it some time. Let's also give Murray some time now that he's had a chance to bring his own personnel into the scouting department. Still mad about Barbashev and not thrilled with anything else about the draft besides Reinhart.
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