Post-Game Talk: B's Lose a Heartbreaker 2-1

[Cronuss]

I already know I am in the verbal minority here but Lucic goes through the majority of the regular season at 33% - the only time he ever turns it up to his 100% effort level is when he's pissed off and at that point he usually takes an undisciplined minor penalty anyway.

He rarely hits anymore, he'd rather spear and chirp.

He was running on all cylinders for the majority of the regular season last year.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Let's keep in mind Lucic is playing with a guy who never centered him before and a guy who's never been on a top line in the NHL before. You'd be surprised how much that can screw with somebody.

There was one offsides in particular that Lucic got called for. It looked like he was expecting Spooner to skate a bit faster, but he didn't. I swear if that was with Krejci, it goes smoother.

I'm usually the first one on the "Lucic is struggling? Get out the torches!" bandwagon, but here i'm willing to give him a bit of leeway.

 

[RaybCamn]

I cant give any leaway to Lucic he is not playing any aspect of the game he can, not one bit. Not hitting, not shooting how many times did he give up the puck in the d-zone. That offsides that people talk about, he was the one offsides not Spooner he was not controlling the play if you do not have the puck you make every effort to not enter the zone first the did'nt. He assumed he was getting the puck back. Spooner was drawing the 2 defenders in, in a few more feet Lucic would have had alot more room work. Lucic is not only not playing at all like himself he is also not thinking.
Lucic, Louie Bart for Ovie or something like that.

 

[Trap Jesus]

I cant give any leaway to Lucic he is not playing any aspect of the game he can, not one bit. Not hitting, not shooting how many times did he give up the puck in the d-zone. That offsides that people talk about, he was the one offsides not Spooner he was not controlling the play if you do not have the puck you make every effort to not enter the zone first the did'nt. He assumed he was getting the puck back. Spooner was drawing the 2 defenders in, in a few more feet Lucic would have had alot more room work. Lucic is not only not playing at all like himself he is also not thinking.
Lucic, Louie Bart for Ovie or something like that.

Lucic through 2 games: 2 hits, 0 shots, 0 missed shots, 1 shot attempt blocked. Yikes. The stats almost do him justice.

 

[EverettMike]

This summer, if you told me on October 10 that Matt Bartkowski would be playing the role of rescuer, I would have stabbed myself in the eye.

You could have told me that at any point in the last three years up to today and I would have stabbed both your eyes and my eyes out.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Lucic through 2 games: 2 hits, 0 shots, 0 missed shots, 1 shot attempt blocked. Yikes. The stats almost do him justice.

Newsflash- Lucic can't play like Lucic and hit everything in sight for 82 games. If hes not scoring you might get a pile of steamy dung from him.

Still is worth keeping around another 3-4 years but when this current core moves on ie Chara and Seids it will probably be wise for us to move Lucic on too.

 

[pkunit]

Krejci and Looch are good together because DK is a "change of pace" guy, not a "push the tempo" guy like Spooner.

I want to see 17-46-18...and I want it now.

Smith will shoot (unlike Loui), he has enough speed to stretch the ice a bit, and enough smarts to know when to do it. Looch needs somebody quick on the RW to force him to move his feet, but not so fast that he can't keep up, if that makes sense.

He might not look it, but at top speed and full stride Looch is fast. Krecji's smarts and well placed passes/dump ins mesh perfectly with Looch. RW just needs to be a competent, well rounded player. Maybe Cunningham gets a look.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

Caught about 30 mins of the game including the post at the end. Struck me as a flat team on the second of a back to back, with some guys still unsure of where they fit in. I'm not going to panic, but there's no doubt that a dozen dudes last night needed to be way way better.

 

[DoubleAAAA]

Krejci I know; is Bergeron out tomorrow?

Sorry, no, was just referring to Jean's post, replying to another post.

 

[GordonHowe]

Bruins Play Like Crap, Deserve to Lose

A listless effort by all. None of this "back to back" nonsense after two games, either. And Haggerty is right: if Bergeron goes down, this team is cooked, at least as far as their conference ambitions go.

 

[BergyWho37]

A listless effort by all. None of this "back to back" nonsense after two games, either. And Haggerty is right: if Bergeron goes down, this team is cooked, at least as far as their conference ambitions go.

Unless a drastic change from that game, I'd say Krech is just as important. What was it 10 or 11 shots heading into 3rd beyond ugly

 

[GordonHowe]

Unless a drastic change from that game, I'd say Krech is just as important. What was it 10 or 11 shots heading into 3rd beyond ugly

I think it was even less than that, like *seven* shots. It's going to be a rocky "work in progress" for awhile, I think. Just hope they don't dig themselves an early, insurmountable hole.

 

[BergyWho37]

I think it was even less than that, like *seven* shots. It's going to be a rocky "work in progress" for awhile, I think. Just hope they don't dig themselves an early, insurmountable hole.

Agreed it actually kinda shocked me the turnovers we were making last night, maybe if that cleans up offence mite happen but wow could hardly watch some of it... Loooch can at least skate and hit if his wrist is still bothering him (yuck) shouldn't pick on him cause many others couldn't pass or accept a pass ect.

 

[Taz#24]

It's still early...

And the Bruins may have a decent season before it's over, however, unfortunately the odds of winning a Stanley Cup have diminished substantially IMHO. Our Bruins are built to succeed via depth and solid D. Both aspects have taken a step backwards over the past couple of years, particularly this offseason. PC is in a tough position because he knows this team is in decline, does he start re-tooling around an identified core group or does he sit tight, add pieces at the DL at the expense of a potential rebuild and hope they find former glory? The current group is best described as a tweener and that's a difficult scenario for a GM. Guess time will tell and it pains me to say it as a die hard Bruins fan but I'm not optimistic with this group, I think we're in for a frustrating season. Maybe PC can try to bring some past karma by shaving that 70's porn stash he is now sporting. Let's hope they find a way.

 

[DitClapper]

This season will rely heavily on the deadline. It could put us over the top if we land key pieces. If he stays quiet like last year, expect a first or second round exit.

 

[GordonHowe]

Agreed it actually kinda shocked me the turnovers we were making last night, maybe if that cleans up offence mite happen but wow could hardly watch some of it... Loooch can at least skate and hit if his wrist is still bothering him (yuck) shouldn't pick on him cause many others couldn't pass or accept a pass ect.

Obviously, there's time to right the ship. But, because of unusual uncertainty on several levels (exacerbated by the Boychuck trade), I see a rough October.

As for Lucic, he's a slow starter to begin with. So much of his game is physical and emotional, it makes sense that he's easing up (or easing into form). It's probably not as easy as we might think to throw a body check with a precarious wrist. Also, he has to act as responsible nurse maid to two NHL greenies while DK is out. Not a recipe for instant success or (sorry, I'm tired of the word too) "chemistry."

I hope this all gets worked out, but it's going to take time. I would hate to see an early grave, as it were. The "core" is very good, if not elite. The experience is there. There's depth, if not as much as we thought. The coaching is excellent; the system is solid.

It's not going to be pretty, or as predictable as it's been these last years. Let's see if management, coaching, and players can put it together in the early going, and then execute "steps two and three" going forward.

This last: Why trade away a 3 D for flexibility when, inevitably, you're going to have to turn around and find lesser 3 D, however "flexible" you've become? There are so many questions up front and now, on defense.

Perhaps the calculation is that with the Boychuck trade, and an improving youth/veteran depth mix on D, you can go out and find decent right wing help. Or, maybe, the idea is that some injections up front (Fraser, Spooner) will provide enough solid offense that you can go back and address the D deficit. Either way, the 2014-15 B's are weaker and less stable than they've been in years.

This does not bode well for the present season.

Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Bruinator]

Lucic through 2 games: 2 hits, 0 shots, 0 missed shots, 1 shot attempt blocked. Yikes. The stats almost do him justice.

With all do respect folks, Lucic is playing with two rookies who he has never played with before, he is coming off off-season wrist surgery which hampered his conditioning and he was only able to play a couple of exhibition games. I think if anyone deserves some slack it is him

 

[Absurdity]

With all do respect folks, Lucic is playing with two rookies who he has never played with before, he is coming off off-season wrist surgery which hampered his conditioning and he was only able to play a couple of exhibition games. I think if anyone deserves some slack it is him

Lucic is also a "veteran" on this team and should start playing like one. He should be the one leading that line and showing the young guys how to play. Also, when does having wrist surgery hamper your ability to skate? If he wanted to bulk up you could make that case, but couldn't he be on the bike or go on a treadmill or do something? He looked complacent, lazy, and slow out there yesterday, and he deserves all the criticism he's getting. Or are we not allowed to criticize the god-send Lucic and instead go back and pile vitriol on Loui Eriksson, who had a pretty good 1st game so-so 2nd game but still outplayed Lucic so far which isn't really saying much for Lucic.

 

[BergyWho37]

Obviously, there's time to right the ship. But, because of unusual uncertainty on several levels (exacerbated by the Boychuck trade), I see a rough October.

As for Lucic, he's a slow starter to begin with. So much of his game is physical and emotional, it makes sense that he's easing up (or easing into form). It's probably not as easy as we might think to throw a body check with a precarious wrist. Also, he has to act as responsible nurse maid to two NHL greenies while DK is out. Not a recipe for instant success or (sorry, I'm tired of the word too) "chemistry."

I hope this all gets worked out, but it's going to take time. I would hate to see an early grave, as it were. The "core" is very good, if not elite. The experience is there. There's depth, if not as much as we thought. The coaching is excellent; the system is solid.

It's not going to be pretty, or as predictable as it's been these last years. Let's see if management, coaching, and players can put it together in the early going, and then execute "steps two and three" going forward.

This last: Why trade away a 3 D for flexibility when, inevitably, you're going to have to turn around and find lesser 3 D, however "flexible" you've become? There are so many questions up front and now, on defense.

Perhaps the calculation is that with the Boychuck trade, and an improving youth/veteran depth mix on D, you can go out and find decent right wing help. Or, maybe, the idea is that some injections up front (Fraser, Spooner) will provide enough solid offense that you can go back and address the D deficit. Either way, the 2014-15 B's are weaker and less stable than they've been in years.

This does not bode well for the present season.

Hope I'm wrong.

Yep, we're on the same page and think for good reason ( too many unknowns ) but we have the core, just disappointing compare to our other years, like you said

I'm guilty for wanting Kids in lineup but now "D" worries me more then getting them in lineup

Time will tell, sure hope PC rubbed a genie bottle before this JB deal happened

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

My thoughts after two games ,I think the D is a solid group but not the most mobile .Bart might be what the D needs,never thought I would say that.At the moment with Krejci and Campbell out it is hard to say how the forward group will play out but right now we have too many projects,Spooner and Fraser might be effective playing in the bottom 6 but at the moment don't seem ready for prime time.Fraser doesn't move very well so I am not sure he is a good option to play with Krejci and Lucic.I don't know a whole lot about Cunningham or Robbins but they didn't impress me after two games.I don't particularly want to move Soderberg up to the top 6 ,I would rather he stay on line 3 but with the lack of depth amongst the forwards it might be worth considering. I think the core of this team is going to have to play extremely well if we are going to succeed because the secondary support isn't there at present.The one positive thing I saw in the two games was that Seidenberg looks fully recovered and he should have a solid year.

 

[ODAAT]

Gonna get hammered for it here but I`d sit Quaider or Miller tonight, give Bart a chance out there, D is too slow right now outside of Dougie and Krug

 

[Ladyfan]

With all do respect folks, Lucic is playing with two rookies who he has never played with before, he is coming off off-season wrist surgery which hampered his conditioning and he was only able to play a couple of exhibition games. I think if anyone deserves some slack it is him

Good post !

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Gonna get hammered for it here but I`d sit Quaider or Miller tonight, give Bart a chance out there, D is too slow right now outside of Dougie and Krug

Didn't see much of the Wings game, but I thought Miller was solid in the Philly game. How was he in Detroit?

 

[ReggieMoto]

Gonna get hammered for it here but I`d sit Quaider or Miller tonight, give Bart a chance out there, D is too slow right now outside of Dougie and Krug

I pretty much agree. I don't see these two as complimentary players as much as I see them as cast from the same mold. I tend to see him as McQuaid's replacement.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

With all do respect folks, Lucic is playing with two rookies who he has never played with before, he is coming off off-season wrist surgery which hampered his conditioning and he was only able to play a couple of exhibition games. I think if anyone deserves some slack it is him

But one of them is the incomparable Spooner. Seems Lucic should be getting plenty of great scoring chances.