Brule/Johnson similiar to Nash/Bowmeester?
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Douggy said:
Hell yeah, if the Pens have the second pick, why would they pick Johnson when they have over a billion defensive prospects and have ONE good NHL impact forward in Malkin? The only bottom teams I could see taking Johnson over Brule is the Rangers, Hurricans, or maybe the Coyotes. Maybe Columbus too.
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Douggy said:
I agree with Reilly's assessment, although the "best player available" quotient could come into play. Then the question arises, who is better: Brule or Johnson?
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Reilly311 said:
Columbus would be all over Johnson.
If Pitt and Chicago, two defensive prospect top heave teams, are in a position to draft Johnson but would rather draft offense - Columbus would be the perfect dance partner.
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You make a good point, but I think the list is even shorter...maybe just Columbus. I think that as special as a Jack Johnson promises to be, there is a much bigger risk in taking him over Brule, simply because of the wait in most cases of D men to develop at the NHL level.Reilly311 said:
Look no further than Klesla, or maybe more importantly Bouwmeester. I think J BO has an extremely high ceiling, but on that team, he lacks the help to get him to be that huge impact guy at this point. Whereas you look at Nash, who by the way is an incredible young player, he took the bull by the horns, and even with very little help on that team, he has emerged as a real stud forward. I think that Brule has very similar potential, and although he may have fallen in the ISS rankings, I feel he is the real deal, and is 2nd only to Sidney Crosby in this upcoming draft.
Which pair would everyone rather have? Brule/Johnson or Nash/Bouwmeester?
Which pair is/was hyped more? I think Bouwmeester was hyped much more than Johnson and for good reason, but I think Brule has been hyped more than Nash. I think Nash has been a pleasant surprise as he's been a lot more productive than what many thought at first. Most probably thought he could score 40 goals in 5 years or so, not in his 2nd season.
That being said i'd rather take Nash/Bouwmeester myself, although I think Brule will have a better career than Nash.
Which pair is/was hyped more? I think Bouwmeester was hyped much more than Johnson and for good reason, but I think Brule has been hyped more than Nash. I think Nash has been a pleasant surprise as he's been a lot more productive than what many thought at first. Most probably thought he could score 40 goals in 5 years or so, not in his 2nd season.
That being said i'd rather take Nash/Bouwmeester myself, although I think Brule will have a better career than Nash.
Reilly311 said:
Not the Coyotes, all things being equal.
They have a D-core that is ready now - Mara, Morris, Tanabe, Gauthier with prospects Spiller and Ballard.
What they need is impact forwards, not to wait for another defenseman. Still, if they think Johnson is a lot better.. they should probably trade down a spot and take Brule anyway.
trahans99 said:
you'd take Nash because he's a good player and not because he played for the London Knights right?
Puckhead said:
The Rangers need a denfenseman, unless they get Crosby (god help us all) they need a franchise defenseman and Jack Johnson is perfect for that team because he's American (Brian Leetch anyone?). Same thing with the Coyotes, they have some good defensive prospects, but Johnson should be the better NHL player and by a large margin. None of their defensemen can play 30 mins if they need to.
I personally think with Doan, Nagy, and all the FA's they signed that they'll have enough offense for awhile. Brule would be a nice player to have, but it would be more of a luxury to have him instead of Johnson on the back end for the dogs. The Canes don't have any impact defensemen at all.
I think it would be interesting to see what route Florida would go if they had the #2 pick.
Reilly311 said:
Did you not read what I said??? I said Brule will have a better career than Nash
I'm saying Nash/Bowmeester because I think JBo has a larger upside than Johnson and Nash is a very solid player, maybe star one day.
I see Brule as a better player than Nash, but Jbo > Johnson by along shot IMO.
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I agree with that. Also, the team that drafts Johnson may have to wait a year or two before he's even in the NHL, let alone making an impact. Brule at least is playing at a level of play that is a decent stepping-stone to the NHL game.Reilly311 said:
I don't think the Coyotes deserve to be mentioned with the bottom teams of the league. THey made some nice pick ups and would have been a very solid team this year. Only real question mark would have been goaltending with Johnson and Boucher.
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trahans99 said:
You've never even seen Johnson play and since you don't watch the Florida Panthers, you've never seen JBo play. There will be plenty of players that will have a better career than Nash. That's not the point. You're taking Nash because he dawned the great London Knights jersey.
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trahans99 said:
Did you not read what I said??? I said Brule will have a better career than Nash
I'm saying Nash/Bowmeester because I think JBo has a larger upside than Johnson and Nash is a very solid player, maybe star one day.
I see Brule as a better player than Nash, but Jbo > Johnson by along shot IMO.
How has your opinion been formed? Have you ever seen Jack Johnson play? He's got alot going for him that Bouwmeester doesn't, that's for sure.
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