Proposal: Bruins Trade proposals VII - MOD in OP

[PB37]

I like Stone a lot and i think he's a top 10 RWer. If he's available, that's the kind of splash this team needs to be a serious contender right now.

 

[kdog82]

If we get Stone and re-sign him 8 years at 9 per I go streaking through the hall and in the gymnasium.

 

[Saxon Eric]

Kreider, Hayes Zbad
For Grz,Heinen JFK
2019 First
2020 First
2021 First

 

[veganbruin]

Way out there and IDK if STL does it (@Blueston feel free to chime in), but what about this for Tarasenko

Jake DeBrusk
Matt Grzelcyk
Danton Heinen
2019 1st

^Hate to move DeBrusk, but if you feel like Ceharlik can be your #2LW and mesh with Krejci then maybe you do it. Still think Boston would need to add another piece, but its a strong starting offer IMO.

For St. Louis, they get a young NHL top 6 forward with team control, a top 4 PMD LHD with team control, another top 9 winger whose better than he's been this year and a 1st rounder.

Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak
Cehlarik - Krejci - Tarasenko

With the depth of LW, you could also eventually have someone like Donato or Bjork push for that job as well.

This makes the team worse.

 

[PlayMakers]

Does Saad need to drive the play if he’s riding shotgun with 37 and 63, or 46? He showed in CBJ and CHI that when he’s playing with talent, he can put the puck in the net.

Those are two different questions.

If Saad plays with Bergeron and Marchand then no. I think Saad would be fine on that line, but if he plays with Krejci? Yes, he would need to help drive the play.

It can't all be on Krejci or teams overplay him. Bergeron has Marchand and Krejci needs a similar co-pilot. He needs someone to work with and play off of and that guy is not Jake solo-effort DeBrusk and his 4 assists.

Stone would be that guy. Krejci and Stone would dish and dangle and DeBrusk would be the last stop on those passing sequences. I don't know if Saad is that kind of player.

 

[RustyBruins72]

My biggest fear this deadline is not that Sweeney won't do anything to address our scoring woes....its that someone like Montreal WILL probably acquire another legit scorer, which would make things more difficult for us.

Here's my thought. I think right now management doesn't want to trade any of the NHL kids right now. Heinen, Grizz, DeBrusk and to some extent, JFK and Vaak.

I think if they did, then Schenn or Saad or ? would already be a Bruin.

I think they're likely to trade a prospect and a draft pick or 2.

I do think they'd trade Frederic, which is why he's playing these last couple of games.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[chizzler]

If we get Stone and re-sign him 8 years at 9 per I go streaking through the hall and in the gymnasium.

Eight years at that term is crazy. Teams need to get back to 4-5 yr deals.

 

[Fenian24]

lot`s of chat here with Heinen`s name being mentioned as part of a deal, odd so many think he`d be the one heading out for a guy who likely doesn`t currently have a ton of value?

I can see them moving Heinen but I envision it being a move where we sit here a few yrs down the road wondering what could have been. I know, I have far more faith (and love) in the guy than the majority, IMO, you don`t just give up on a guy who, as a rook, almost posted 50 pts, he didn`t lose that touch over the summer and into the year, it`s still there. You place him CONSISTENTLY with a solid pivot and we`re having a different conversation IMO

sure looks like he lost it. Wonder how many of those assists were secondary assists. Like I've said I don't hate him he is just the definition of a JAG, if he can upgrade this team in anyway but getting dealt he should be gone in a heartbeat. I doubt he ever sniffs 50 points again.

 

[JRull86]

I don't see him bumping the Bruins top line - so, to your point, maybe it becomes a 1/1A scenario which is more tolerable I suppose.

I dunno, Marchand - Bergeron - Stone is an elite scoring line, and an elite defensive line as well. I'd absolutely put Stone with them and move Pasta with Krejci.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

Forsbacka Karlsson not skating with Providence this morning. Something to keep an eye on?

 

[BruinDust]

I think he’s exactly what they need

They have 3 PPG players

A 50-60 guy in Krejci

Then it falls off

Saad is a 50-60 guy

Saad in my opinion is purrrrrfect fit

A young solid 25 + winger to supplement the great first line

Schenn, Saad, Kreider, Toffoli all interest me

I like all those guys to be honest. Them (and the pipe dream Mark Stone) are the age range of forward they need to be looking at. They can all play for the Bruins as far as I'm concerned.

But if I can pick the best combination of acquisition cost and filling their biggest need (pure goal-scorers) Toffoli is the best bet. The fact he is a natural RWer (a legit factor) helps his cause.

In a game like yesterday where no one could beat a hot goaltender, a guy who can pick corners from range is what they really need. I'd almost rather see them get more of a specialist-type in Toffoli than the more well rounded two-way guys like Saad or the power-forward type in Kreider. Even though if I was building a team from scratch I'd probably take both of them over Toffoli.

 

[rocketdan9]

If we get Stone and re-sign him 8 years at 9 per I go streaking through the hall and in the gymnasium.

seriously

also get Pageau

Marchand Bergeron Pasta
Debrusk Krejci Stone
Heinen Pageau Backes
Wagner Acciari/Nordstrom Kuraly

my hope

 

[bolt thrower]

Eight years at that term is crazy. Teams need to get back to 4-5 yr deals.

I completely agree. All this 8, 9, 10 year crap needs to stop, 4-5 year deals is what we need and what I want to see.
Nevertheless I want Stone badly, not only some mid tier player like Hayes or Ferland. This team needs some scoring help, a player like Stone would be the perfect addition and give us two really solid lines. Then get a centre for the 3rd line and we are fixed.

 

[easton117]

sure looks like he lost it. Wonder how many of those assists were secondary assists. Like I've said I don't hate him he is just the definition of a JAG, if he can upgrade this team in anyway but getting dealt he should be gone in a heartbeat. I doubt he ever sniffs 50 points again.

I look at a game like yesterday and just can’t see him doing anymore than the guys who played did. He’s a spare part at this point who is probably in need of a change of scenery to get some confidence back.

I can’t imagine he’s having much fun coming to work everyday right now.

Maybe a place like Arizona where he can develop his game out of the limelight with some other young guys. A place with zero expectations.

 

[Absurdity]

Kreider, Hayes Zbad
For Grz,Heinen JFK
2019 First
2020 First
2021 First

Kreider + Hayes + Zibanejad or Kreider + Hayes or Zibanejad? I would rather just Kreider + Zibanejad.

 

[DKH]

I like all those guys to be honest. Them (and the pipe dream Mark Stone) are the age range of forward they need to be looking at. They can all play for the Bruins as far as I'm concerned.

But if I can pick the best combination of acquisition cost and filling their biggest need (pure goal-scorers) Toffoli is the best bet. The fact he is a natural RWer (a legit factor) helps his cause.

In a game like yesterday where no one could beat a hot goaltender, a guy who can pick corners from range is what they really need. I'd almost rather see them get more of a specialist-type in Toffoli than the more well rounded two-way guys like Saad or the power-forward type in Kreider. Even though if I was building a team from scratch I'd probably take both of them over Toffoli.

Toffoli is a natural right winger not sure he’s available but he should be

If I was LA I’m askibg for a 1 and a prospect s good one since he has term

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Kreider + Hayes + Zibanejad or Kreider + Hayes or Zibanejad? I would rather just Kreider + Zibanejad.

AGAIN, why do we want teams like the Rangers to be a threat if you are the WC 1 or 2 seed aka the old 7 or 8 seed?

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Toffoli is a natural right winger not sure he’s available but he should be

If I was LA I’m askibg for a 1 and a prospect s good one since he has term

wouldn't LA have done that, the same way Muzzin was deemed 'expendable'?

 

[Gordoff]

wouldn't LA have done that, the same way Muzzin was deemed 'expendable'?

They (LA) still have 21 days to deal so there's that. There's really no reason why they aren't letting the deals formulate to fruition.

 

[Gordoff]

Id rather have two Stanley Cups and no Kaspars Daugaviņš

Exactly, we don't know if they still take the Cup in '11 and then again in '13 with a more mature Wheeler they may have also had enough in the tank to overcome Chicago. We'll never know.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

Those are two different questions.

If Saad plays with Bergeron and Marchand then no. I think Saad would be fine on that line, but if he plays with Krejci? Yes, he would need to help drive the play.

It can't all be on Krejci or teams overplay him. Bergeron has Marchand and Krejci needs a similar co-pilot. He needs someone to work with and play off of and that guy is not Jake solo-effort DeBrusk and his 4 assists.

Stone would be that guy. Krejci and Stone would dish and dangle and DeBrusk would be the last stop on those passing sequences. I don't know if Saad is that kind of player.

I think it's pretty safe to say if they trade for Saad we will see 63-37-Saad and 74-46-88.

 

[NeelyDan]

Toffoli is interesting, his production seems to have dipped a degree this year but he's provided plenty of evidence he can produce.

 

[Bruins78]

Kreider + Hayes + Zibanejad or Kreider + Hayes or Zibanejad? I would rather just Kreider + Zibanejad.

Rangers aren’t trading Zibanejad...he has good term (3
More years at 5.75) and is improving at 25...they have some good prospects in Traktov, Chytil, Lias Anderson, Howden and a likely top 5 pick with more first rounders likely from trades.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

Forsbacka Karlsson not skating with Providence this morning. Something to keep an eye on?

Never mind.

 

[Greek_physique]

Here's my thought. I think right now management doesn't want to trade any of the NHL kids right now. Heinen, Grizz, DeBrusk and to some extent, JFK and Vaak.

I think if they did, then Schenn or Saad or ? would already be a Bruin.

I think they're likely to trade a prospect and a draft pick or 2.

I do think they'd trade Frederic, which is why he's playing these last couple of games.

Just my 2 cents.

IMO, could all be valid points...however I think Sweeney is also a little gun shy, which I don't blame, but the longer he waits the harder things become for us.

Its easy to see what our biggest flaws are this year; secondary scoring. Looking at the way the playoffs are structure, you could say finishing with the top wild card could be a blessing for this team unless we have to play Washington first round...but I feel like, we should look at going after that 2nd seed.

Guys like Frederic, JFK, Donato, etc...all good youngsters, but IMO, its risky to think someone within the organization will fill that gap this late in the season.

 

[BruinDust]

Toffoli is a natural right winger not sure he’s available but he should be

If I was LA I’m askibg for a 1 and a prospect s good one since he has term

I'd give them a 2nd and a good prospect, I don't think I'd do the 1st rounder. Considering what they got for Muzzin, a D-man (more value than a winger) having a very good season despite LA's struggles vs. a winger who's a bit dependent on his line-mates and having a down season, I don't see a team coughing up the 1st rounder, but you never know.