Signing(s): Brock Osweiler and Lamar Miller to Houston

[Sports Enthusiast]

Except...he did, because he got it.

He really didn't though. Just because someone was stupid doesn't mean he had leverage. Its not like he really did anything on the field.

 

[aleshemsky83]

This notion that we didn't put up a fight to keep Brock is ridiculous. And wrong. $16 per and $50ish million guaranteed isn't a fight?

Not our fault he and his agent acted like ******** *****es and cut off communication after that offer.

Whered you get that 50 million number? That would have been worse than the haynseworth deal.

He really didn't though. Just because someone was stupid doesn't mean he had leverage. Its not like he really did anything on the field.

He did though. He had two teams bidding against eachother. Thats leverage.

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

Whered you get that 50 million number? That would have been worse than the haynseworth deal.

I don't know why I said 50 million. 30ish is what I meant.

 

[What the Faulk]

It's 4 years, 72 million (18 per) and 37 guaranteed for Brock. So not 50, but still a lot.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

Whered you get that 50 million number? That would have been worse than the haynseworth deal.



He did though. He had two teams bidding against eachother. Thats leverage.

Because teams are stupid. I mean there's people saying pay Kirk Cousins because of 8 home games then he flops in the playoffs. In most cases QB is a fickle position. Ryan Fitzpatrick is a prime example.

 

[kanuck87]

Because teams are stupid. I mean there's people saying pay Kirk Cousins because of 8 home games then he flops in the playoffs. In most cases QB is a fickle position. Ryan Fitzpatrick is a prime example.

The question is whether or not he had leverage, not if Osweiler deserved the contract.

He was a free agent, and he had multiple teams pursuing him, so clearly the answer to that question was yes. Regardless of what he did on the field, he had leverage, and from the looks of it, he had a lot of it.

 

[Hasbro]

 

[Voight]

#context

 

[Hasbro]

#context

Freed up some money to resign more of the supporting staff and and get some extensions done.

 

[chasespace]

Did I miss where he got a big money extension? When the hell did that happen?

 

[Hasbro]

Did I miss where he got a big money extension? When the hell did that happen?

Lynch's standardized rookie deal versus Oz frontload this year.

 

[Voight]

Lynch's standardized rookie deal versus Oz frontload this year.

Obviously its going to cost less. The question remains who will perform better. he may only have 7 starts, but that also 7 more than Lynch has at this moment.

 

[Hasbro]

Obviously its going to cost less. The question remains who will perform better. he may only have 7 starts, but that also 7 more than Lynch has at this moment.

Roughly $3 million per.

 

[Hasbro]

Sanchize is a perfectly fine option. Again, the guy made two straight AFC championship games. If you want to attribute most or all of that to the Jets defence, thats fine, because the Broncos D is comparable if not better.

Better D, worse O Line, better RBs, better receivers, worse TEs, worse returners, better kicking.

 

[ShootIt]

I'm still surprised Brock got that much in terms of average and guaranteed.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Osweiler blows

So when can Texans cut him and not endure sizeable dead cap?

 

[Voight]

Osweiler blows

So when can Texans cut him and not endure sizeable dead cap?

I dunno last night he looked pretty good. led the team to an OT win after being down.

 

[Live in the Now]

Osweiler is effectively still in his first season of playing in the NFL. He hasn't been good, but cutting him would be extremely stupid.

 

[sjsharks92]

Just give Lamar Miller the rock and let him go to work! Been saying it all season. This team's best chance of winning is establishing the run so that Osweiler doesn't have to work as hard to get his yards.

 

[zombie kopitar]

Just give Lamar Miller the rock and let him go to work! Been saying it all season. This team's best chance of winning is establishing the run so that Osweiler doesn't have to work as hard to get his yards.

Well especially with Fuller out.

Texans have all the tools.... elite receiver, young deep threat (who will only get better), solid RB1 & defense.

They just need Osweiler to be an efficient passer & game manager.


Yes he is overpaid, but he is a good fit there....I see them with a pretty healthy lead on the division by december.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Brock Osweiler is not very good, he's not efficient at all. I also don't think Will Fuller is going to get much better. He's Ted Ginn 2.0. which is fine when you have Hopkins.

 

[sjsharks92]

Well especially with Fuller out.

Texans have all the tools.... elite receiver, young deep threat (who will only get better), solid RB1 & defense.

They just need Osweiler to be an efficient passer & game manager.


Yes he is overpaid, but he is a good fit there....I see them with a pretty healthy lead on the division by december.

They have plenty of skill position talent. Osweiler should be able to thrive with all the tools they've given him. But he's a bad QB. Best way to hide that is to develop the run and force defenses to prepare for stopping Miller. That should open up some passing lanes.

 

[sjsharks92]

Brock Osweiler is not very good, he's not efficient at all. I also don't think Will Fuller is going to get much better. He's Ted Ginn 2.0. which is fine when you have Hopkins.

Hopkins in my opinion is the 2nd best receiver in the league after Antonio Brown. That's high praise I know, but given the crap QB's he's had to work with in his career I think it's fair. Can you imagine what Hopkins could do with a guy like Big Ben, or Palmer, or Ryan? Let alone the truly elite guys like Brady or Brees.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

He's top 5. The league is loaded with good receivers.

 

[sjsharks92]

He's top 5. The league is loaded with good receivers.

Yea Julio Jones certainly has an argument. As does Odell.