Player Discussion Brock Boeser

[Love]

This market doesn’t deserve Boeser. Really cringy to see the takes from fans and media about Boeser every time we lose.

 

[strattonius]

This market doesn’t deserve Boeser. Really cringy to see the takes from fans and media about Boeser every time we lose.

I'm definitely not being hard on him. It looks like most of us are talking about dealing a valuable asset to address a team need.

 

[Hyzer]

This market doesn’t deserve Boeser. Really cringy to see the takes from fans and media about Boeser every time we lose.

So you're saying being a realist means that this market doesn't deserve Boeser? That's a real hot take there man.

The fact of the matter is that he has been a passenger on his line and really hasn't been very good. Whether it was his injuries or whatever, he is not the same as rookie Boeser and I'm unsure if he will ever get there again. How many shots has he even had this playoffs?

 

[VanJack]

There's only a few ways you can acquire a legitimate top-four d-man in this league.

You either draft and develop--something the Canucks have been abysmal at with the exception of Hughes. You can try to acquire a guy as a UFA. But as we've seen, you're forced to overpay for a guy about to turn 30 and he never turns out like you expected.

Finally there's the trade route. Canucks haven't had much luck there either but you have to keep trying. So no disrespect to Boeser. But if he has to be sacrificed to acquire a desperately-needed d-man then you have to do it. After all, the winger position is one of strength for this organization, given who's in the pipeline.

Of course there's always a danger that Jimbo will identify a guy like Sbisa or Gudbranson as a trade target (they make a great first pass). But what can you do?

 

[MarkMM]

This market doesn’t deserve Boeser. Really cringy to see the takes from fans and media about Boeser every time we lose.

I think it's more that we recognize Boeser is a good player who has value, Benning has screwed up the cap situation so we're going to have to make sacrifices even though we still have holes going forward, and so putting two and two together, can we use what we have in Boeser to fix the problems we have with the team on primarily on defence while fitting in the cap that's been polluted with Benning deadweight contracts.

 

[Bonham]

This market doesn’t deserve Boeser. Really cringy to see the takes from fans and media about Boeser every time we lose.

He is a professional hockey player and one of the highest paid players on the roster, he can take the criticism if his play warrants it.

Nobody is talking about dumping him for scraps. If they can package him for a young(ish) top 4 defenseman with upside then they should definitely be considering it. He is a one-dimensional, goal-scoring winger who has struggled to create his own offense since his back injury. It is probably one of the easiest positions to replace on the roster.

They have some winger depth coming up in Podkolzin, Hoglander, Lind, Lockwood. They have very little on the back end that projects into the top 4. Edler and Tanev are not getting any younger and the team can't rely on Hughes to carry the entire load moving forward.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I don’t think HFboard understands that players aren’t robot

 

[BB06]

This market doesn’t deserve Boeser. Really cringy to see the takes from fans and media about Boeser every time we lose.

Ive been a Boeser fan since forever at this point you’d have to let fandom blind you. I want him to succeed so bad but you can tell he just isn’t the same player. I don’t even think he’s lazy at times he tries really hard. Just not good enough.

 

[Love]

Ive been a Boeser fan since forever at this point you’d have to let fandom blind you. I want him to succeed so bad but you can tell he just isn’t the same player. I don’t even think he’s lazy at times he tries really hard. Just not good enough.

 

[Canucks1096]

There's only a few ways you can acquire a legitimate top-four d-man in this league.

You either draft and develop--something the Canucks have been abysmal at with the exception of Hughes. You can try to acquire a guy as a UFA. But as we've seen, you're forced to overpay for a guy about to turn 30 and he never turns out like you expected.

Finally there's the trade route. Canucks haven't had much luck there either but you have to keep trying. So no disrespect to Boeser. But if he has to be sacrificed to acquire a desperately-needed d-man then you have to do it. After all, the winger position is one of strength for this organization, given who's in the pipeline.

Of course there's always a danger that Jimbo will identify a guy like Sbisa or Gudbranson as a trade target (they make a great first pass). But what can you do?

I don't think you need to be too concern since your examples was 6 years ago and 4 years ago. Also Linden is not around anymore. Benning trades and signings has gotten Better since Linden left.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Looks stuck in the mud, sluggish and a complete none factor. Just isn’t the same player we saw in his rookie year, that kid was dynamic had an incredible shot and was trending to being a star. That back injury has really done a number on him

This is coming from someone with his jersey, his hockey DB stats and analytics look good because he plays with a superstar in Pettersson.

Selling high on this player would be the smartest thing this team could do, he is the Jordan Eberle of this team.

This.

 

[Snatcher Demko]

Boeser reminds me of the Sedins a bit. Just a half-step behind at this stage of his career.

Needs to really work on his strength, stamina and quickness. He is getting fatigued easily it seems. All are correctable things that he can evolve out of. There's no doubt that back injury has played a significant role - just a freak injury from an asshole play.

Just a bit quicker and he's a regular 30-30+ player who is adequate (or better) defensively.

 

[HockeyWooot]

Boeser reminds me of the Sedins a bit. Just a half-step behind at this stage of his career.

Needs to really work on his strength, stamina and quickness. He is getting fatigued easily it seems. All are correctable things that he can evolve out of. There's no doubt that back injury has played a significant role - just a freak injury from an asshole play.

Just a bit quicker and he's a regular 30-30+ player who is adequate (or better) defensively.

This.

Needs to be a bit quicker/more explosive, to play his game effectively in the playoffs where there is less time and space.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

He played fine tonight.

 

[BB06]

Boeser is actually extremely strong. Dude was so heavy on the puck today. Legit won almost all his board battles. Where the f*** was that?

 

[Ace of Hades]

His shot is being wasted on the power play. Should be replacing Miller on that spot in particular.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

for what he can be he's still my favourite player on this team

but man, i don't think it's just a matter of him being a step behind the play or being too deep in his head, though he is both. you watch him and he's been trying really really hard, even in the games where everybody wants him shot out of a cannon and into a volcano. but this is a player with terrible fundamentals when the puck isn't on his stick. he just doesn't know where his stick should be to disrupt passing lanes, how to get his body against the boards to hold the zone on a clear, how to lift a guy's stick at just the right moment or tap the puck away on the backcheck.

these are all things petey does masterfully, and quinn too. when those two put on man strength, they will have elite takeaway numbers like ROR and stone, or in quinn's case prime ryan suter. i just wonder whether it's too late for boeser to learn those instincts and muscle memory that petey and quinn have been getting hundreds of reps in on every single day for the last 10-15 years.

 

[HockeyWooot]

Boeser is actually extremely strong. Dude was so heavy on the puck today. Legit won almost all his board battles. Where the f*** was that?

I noticed this too, I didn’t think he had it in him.

The obvious, justified, concern is about his shot. He doesn’t seem to be willing to use it, are those days gone now?

 

[LordBacon]

Had himself a hell of a game,
I feel like we want more out of him because he’s so damn talented but we forgot the fact that he’s so young and playing his first ever nhl playoff.
Not everyone is on peteys level and it’s totally fine.

 

[PG Canuck]

This market doesn’t deserve Boeser. Really cringy to see the takes from fans and media about Boeser every time we lose.

At the end of the day, he’s paid to produce and he hasn’t done that in this series at all. He’s looked better the last two games but matter of the fact is, he’s not paid to just look good out there.

Pettersson is setting the bar high for the other young players. The others need to prove they can keep up. So far, I don’t think Boeser has kept up as much as the others.

 

[crazychimp]

His shot is being wasted on the power play. Should be replacing Miller on that spot in particular.

He would be the better choice on the first unit even though Miller did assist in that Toffoli pp goal. He brings the one-timer threat on the left side with Petey on the other.

 

[PG Canuck]

We all want Boeser on the top PP for the one timer, but if he doesn’t use it, then what’s the point? Almost seems like that’s why he’s not there. He did it once vs STL. Brock isn’t shooting like he was in his rookie year and it’s not just not the same.

I think everyone can see that.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

We all want Boeser on the top PP for the one timer, but if he doesn’t use it, then what’s the point? Almost seems like that’s why he’s not there. He did it once vs STL. Brock isn’t shooting like he was in his rookie year and it’s not just not the same.

I think everyone can see that.

After watching Miller trying to force passes and make dumb plays, I think Boeser might be the better fit on the opposite side of EP, he’s an underrated passer.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Boeser was our second best forward this game behind only Pettersson, he played a solid heavy game, won puck battles, battled hard and set up teammates for 2-3 grade A scoring chances. His all around game has become quite good.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

After watching Miller trying to force passes and make dumb plays, I think Boeser might be the better fit on the opposite side of EP, he’s an underrated passer.

I think part of Boesers issue is hes "conflicted".

He been touted as a shoot first guy and he is but his shot is gone. He is however not only a good passer but a good playmaker.

He needs to find some balance.