Jumptheshark
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No idea about the verification for the moneyball thing, but the other two aren't that hard to agree with to a fair degree.
Boston Red Sox used a version of moneyball to build their team that won the US Series
No idea about the verification for the moneyball thing, but the other two aren't that hard to agree with to a fair degree.
To be fair, Burke led a team to a Cup not 20 years ago, but 5 years ago. He's justified in believing in his methods as they had success for him not all that long ago.
In his second quote, maybe he's trying to say that nobody ever won a championship purely with statistics, and that a measure of eyeballing and having an eye for talent is involved as well? I think hearing the entire discussion would provide some context, instead of just yanking a sentence out of what was probably a larger idea.
Boston Red Sox used a version of moneyball to build their team that won the US Series
if advanced statistics are that be all and end all
then they should win every year
Um, wouldn't a lamppost still be useful for illumination as well as support, drunk or not?
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i fully agree with what he is saying
statistics are a part of the game but not all
and its true, no one ever a title with moneyball
I love him, and will always hate MLSE for firing him.
Yeah because firing him is working out so terribly for the Leafs this year.
all that team did was loot the Florida Marlins of all their good players
the Oakland A's were a moneyball team
all that team did was loot the Florida Marlins of all their good players
the Oakland A's were a moneyball team
In 2003, Bill James was hired by a former reader, John Henry, the new owner of the Boston Red Sox.
Statistics will never be as effective in hockey as they are in baseball. Burke's right. There are too many variables for them to be anything near an exact science.
What does this even mean? He built the team that is doing well.
Burke's not right, as most organizations use statistical analysis in their player evaluations.
Yeah. I'm not a big fan of Burke, but you can't credit the Leafs current success to his dismissal. This is still the team he built. There's been no significant additions made to the Leafs through trade or free agency since Burke was canned.
Statistical analysis plays a role in proper player evaluations, but it is possible to attach too much importance to it.
Let's be honest - Any Red Sox World Series victory over the past decade or two has more to do with them having a bigger payroll than 95% of the rest of MLB than it has to do with anything else. Moneyball might help, but it's not the key reason why the Red Sox have enjoyed whatever recent success they have.
Show me a few teams with average payrolls that turned into championship teams through the Moneyball philosophy, and then it'll be impressive.
Show me a few teams with average payrolls that turned into championship teams through the Moneyball philosophy, and then it'll be impressive.
The idea of moneyball isn't that stats will make any team win every year. The idea is objective analysis. You may expand the concept to the use of sports psychology, biomechanics, financial analysis, topology, computer models the list goes on and on.
Well, no organization wants to be left behind in case statistics can eventually provide some fruition. But look at hockey - every metric has so many caveats and every variable has ten variables. It's almost impossible. It moves too fast.
It's not completely useless, but it's not ever going to be reliably accurate to a significant degree.