Player Discussion Brendan Gallagher suspended 5 games

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[angusyoung]

What you see is what you get,and at that upcoming cap hit,yikes!

 

[ottawa]

Brendan Gallagher: Can he bounce back?

Probably not.

 

[sampollock]

Brendan Gallagher: Can he bounce back?

Probably not.

he needs to focus on scoring. not on being a knob so much

 

[Banjo Cat]

I wonder if he eased up a little on gritting his teeth and didn't put out such an effort to do small things would it work out better for him.

 

[The Great Weal]

6.5 million to get bloodied while doing nothing offensively and being gassed at end of a shift. Mon ptit guerrier <3

 

[CheldishGamibno]

Contract is harsh and I agree but he's playing on a shutdown line with zero offense Danault, you can't expect him to score that much.
He's still valuable to the team, at 1.5M$ too much. He fits really well with that team of overpaid players though.

 

[the]

I think he can play well for a few more seasons but he completely disappears when the playoffs starts. My issue and concern is not the regular season but during the playoffs.

It's fine to play with grit and heart but a 4th line grinder can do that. At 6,5m I expect him to score and produce. His production ever since the Rangers series in 2014 has been awful.

 

[sandviper]

Love the guy and he looks like somebody put a cigarette out on his face after every shift, but he really needs to start contributing offensively.

 

[Mike8]

I think he can play well for a few more seasons but he completely disappears when the playoffs starts. My issue and concern is not the regular season but during the playoffs.

It's fine to play with grit and heart but a 4th line grinder can do that. At 6,5m I expect him to score and produce. His production ever since the Rangers series in 2014 has been awful.

It's tough to produce when put in a shutdown role with linemates that are offensive black holes.

 

[Kennerback]

He's looks battered, bruised and there's no gas left in the tank.

 

[sampollock]

He's looks battered, bruised and there's no gas left in the tank.

and now we pay him

 

[yianik]

The guy always bounces back. Some day he won't, I know. But talk to me 15 games in next season, then we will know.

 

[Captain Mountain]

His line is facing some of the toughest playoff minutes ever recorded. Calm the **** down.

 

[Deebs]

His line is facing some of the toughest playoff minutes ever recorded. Calm the **** down.

No doubt.

 

[the]

It's tough to produce when put in a shutdown role with linemates that are offensive black holes.

He’s been with offensive black holes since the Rangers series in 2014? The offensive black holes are holding him down when he’s getting countless PP opportunities?

 

[The Great Weal]

hIs LiNeMatEs SuCk OfFeNsIveLy after he scored 30 goals multiple times with Danault as his center lol.

 

[Mike8]

He’s been with offensive black holes since the Rangers series in 2014?

Yes.

The offensive black holes are holding him down when he’s getting countless PP opportunities?

Gallagher isn't on the 1st PP unit. Further, he's never really been a strong PP contributor.

I'll also add that his offense hasn't been nearly as lackluster as you seem to be claiming.

2015: 5 points in 12 games; as compared to 47 in 82 regular season games. (0.42 vs 0.57 -- given sample size & lower scoring in playoffs, that's in line)
2017: 3 points in 6 games; as compared to 29 in 64 regular season games (production in line with regular season)
2020: 4 points in 9 games; as compared to 43 in 59 regular season games

So it's really 2020 and 2021 -- and not "since 2014" as you claimed. And Gallagher has been stuck with Danault these last two playoff years, in exclusively shut-down roles. If Montreal were built as a modern day team and not a late '90s style team, Gallagher wouldn't be in a shut-down role and his offense wouldn't be sacrificed so severely. I don't like this approach to roster management that Ducharme/Bergevin seem to favour but, hey, the team's in the Finals. I just wouldn't say that Gallagher's struggling given the role he's been assigned and the team's strategy that has been imposed on him.

 

[Lucky Luke]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Habs win on a Game 7 OT goal, with the puck going off Gallagher's kisser.
That, ladies and gentlemen, would be bloody magically fitting.

 

[Mike8]

hIs LiNeMatEs SuCk OfFeNsIveLy after he scored 30 goals multiple times with Danault as his center lol.

Regular season is quite different. Roles aren't defined so concretely. Matchups aren't adhered to as strictly.

He also scored 30 goals with Tatar as the other winger. Regular season Tatar is superior to playoff Tatar and to Lekhonen or Evans.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

With their increased defensively responsibilities, the majority of that lines' chances have to come on the rush as they don't want to get caught out of position deep in the offensive zone and cause odd-man rushes against. A line like the Staal line could play more offensively as they are usually playing against the other's teams bottom six guys so any odd many rushes wouldn't be as dangerous.

The majority of Gallagher/Danault's goals come in tight around the net and both would rarely ever beat a goalie like Vasilevskiy, Hellebuyck, Fleury or Lehner on a clear shot, so it isn't surprising that their point totals have been bad.

 

[The Great Weal]

Regular season is quite different. Roles aren't defined so concretely. Matchups aren't adhered to as strictly.

He also scored 30 goals with Tatar as the other winger. Regular season Tatar is superior to playoff Tatar and to Lekhonen or Evans.

Regular season Gally is also superior to playoff Gally and Tatar. A 30 goalscorer is supposed to find a way to keep producing and not turn into a 4th liner.

 

[the]

Yes.



Gallagher isn't on the 1st PP unit. Further, he's never really been a strong PP contributor.

I'll also add that his offense hasn't been nearly as lackluster as you seem to be claiming.

2015: 5 points in 12 games; as compared to 47 in 82 regular season games. (0.42 vs 0.57 -- given sample size & lower scoring in playoffs, that's in line)
2017: 3 points in 6 games; as compared to 29 in 64 regular season games (production in line with regular season)
2020: 4 points in 9 games; as compared to 43 in 59 regular season games

So it's really 2020 and 2021 -- and not "since 2014" as you claimed. And Gallagher has been stuck with Danault these last two playoff years, in exclusively shut-down roles. If Montreal were built as a modern day team and not a late '90s style team, Gallagher wouldn't be in a shut-down role and his offense wouldn't be sacrificed so severely. I don't like this approach to roster management that Ducharme/Bergevin seem to favour but, hey, the team's in the Finals. I just wouldn't say that Gallagher's struggling given the role he's been assigned and the team's strategy that has been imposed on him.

He’s got 7 goals in his last 56 playoffs games (since 2014). I expect him to score goals and it just hasn’t been here. You just got 3 years where his production dipped during the playoffs (2015,2020,2021) With all the hype he gets around here I expect him to raise his game during the playoffs. People want him captain of this team but he can’t even step it up when it matters the most.

It’s no coincidence to me why Ducharme put him in a shutdown role. He’s not producing and even if he was given a more offensive role I doubt he would have produced. His shot selection is horrible, he has average speed and can barely make a pass. Nothing in his play currently indicates that he would produce in a more offensive role.

My point I was making with the PP comment is that at least he’s still getting some prime chances to produce. He’s been given some opportunities that his “offensive blackhole” line mates aren’t being given and he still can’t produce when he’s away from them.

 

[Mike8]

He’s got 7 goals in his last 56 playoffs games (since 2014). I expect him to score goals and it just hasn’t been here. You just got 3 years where his production dipped during the playoffs (2015,2020,2021) With all the hype he gets around here I expect him to raise his game during the playoffs. People want him captain of this team but he can’t even step it up when it matters the most.

It’s no coincidence to me why Ducharme put him in a shutdown role. He’s not producing and even if he was given a more offensive role I doubt he would have produced. His shot selection is horrible, he has average speed and can barely make a pass. Nothing in his play currently indicates that he would produce in a more offensive role.

My point I was making with the PP comment is that at least he’s still getting some prime chances to produce. He’s been given some opportunities that his “offensive blackhole” line mates aren’t being given and he still can’t produce when he’s away from them.

I think you need to be a little more nuanced than simply looking at raw production.

 

[The Great Weal]

I think you need to be a little more nuanced than simply looking at raw production.

People lose their minds at Danault for not producing even though he's the main guy helping out defensively yet it's ok for Gally (the substantially better offensive player) to not produce?