Prospect Info: Brandon Bussi

[JOKER 192]

not stop playing.
but if i remember correctly tge bruins had a rotation of swayman and ullmark after mid march?? they shoulve added bussi to the mix and sit swayman or ullmark for games. they had no reason to pkay just swayman and ullmark. if they were going for that dumbass record, well then they got what tgey asked for. With bergy and ullmark and the biggest choke in nhl history.

would have been a great opportunity to see how he could handle playing in the NHL too. You had to know you were going to have to make hard choices next season and goaltending is going to be one off them . Just a missed opportunity.

Lol

It's really not funny at all.

 

[bruinmann77]

I am in the camp of moving Ullmark at this point he value will never be higher and could use the cap savings

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Id move Ullmark. Go with Swayman and see what you have. Bussi is behind him. MAYBE you sign a guy who battles Bussi in camp. If he beats Bussi out, it’s not the worst thing in the world. Explore the KHL goalie market as well. I’ll never hate them drafting a goalie as well.

A way to save some money is moving Ullmark. Acquire some picks and prospects (not expecting anything massive seeing goalies don’t usually fetch big packages). Can’t take money back. From what you “save” by trading Ullmark, you’re replacing that money with what Swayman + backup costs.

 

[Alicat]

Keeping Swayman and Ullmark.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

The cap, call up limitations and trying to sock away money for the deadline/bonus coverage really should leave this idea stillborn.

Bussi is also arbitration eligible, so giving him NHL games would have run the risk of costing more cap next season.

thanks for clearing that up.
i just watch the games. dont really pay much attention to the off ice stuff.
i just figured with tgeir spot settled since january it wouldve been smart to run a 3 goalie rotation.

Id move Ullmark. Go with Swayman and see what you have. Bussi is behind him. MAYBE you sign a guy who battles Bussi in camp. If he beats Bussi out, it’s not the worst thing in the world. Explore the KHL goalie market as well. I’ll never hate them drafting a goalie as well.

A way to save some money is moving Ullmark. Acquire some picks and prospects (not expecting anything massive seeing goalies don’t usually fetch big packages). Can’t take money back. From what you “save” by trading Ullmark, you’re replacing that money with what Swayman + backup costs.

ullmark is as good as gone. he needs to see a shrink for his playoff performances.

 

[LouJersey]

Andersen, Bob, Hill, Oettinger, Grubauer.

One blue chipper there. You deal one of the goalies this offseason. No cap room for 8-9 million for both.

 

[BruinDust]

Andersen, Bob, Hill, Oettinger, Grubauer.

One blue chipper there. You deal one of the goalies this offseason. No cap room for 8-9 million for both.

And that blue chipper (Oettinger) hasn't had a great 2nd round and may be golfing tomorrow.

Florida are absolutely benefitting from putting 34-year old Bob up on a shelf for 3 1/2 weeks at the end of the season.

Hill didn't make a start for 2 full months. Steps in fresh as a daisy and helps win 3 out of 4.

I don't need the best goaltender. I just want the freshest one.

 

[rocketdan9]

No cap room for 8-9 million for both.

The roadblock would be Ullmark 15 or 16 no trade list. And then for Sweeney to find a deal that works(little to no salary coming back plus high picks or prospects).

If Ullmark is dead set in staying... he could cleverly list teams like Kings, Sharks(who need goaltending) on his no trade list.

 

[ODAAT]

Keeping Swayman and Ullmark.

me too, let Bussi marinate this coming year, move Ullmark next year

 

[NDiesel]

me too, let Bussi marinate this coming year, move Ullmark next year

Then what if Ullmark has a bad year? You now lost your chance to get great value for him and to have an extra 5 mil for this season to keep someone else like Bert.

Just dont see the point in keeping him if the plan is to deal him a year later.

 

[PlayMakers]

me too, let Bussi marinate this coming year, move Ullmark next year

I think if you put Bussi in the minors for another year he'll be a UFA at the end.

I am usually all for the marination process in the minors but I think Sweeney is guilty of letting players marinate too long, to a point where they've either soured on the organization or lost all confidence. Every year, we hear about guys asking for trades out of Boston/Providence.

I think it's negatively affected the Bruins ability to sign college free agents. Look at Ahcan, he's been NHL ready for 2 years now but is stuck in Providence. McLaughlin has a great NHL debut last year, then a great training camp where he looked like one of our 6 best forwards, but is sent to the minors anyway and buried there all year.

 

[rocketdan9]

I think if you put Bussi in the minors for another year he'll be a UFA at the end.

I am usually all for the marination process in the minors but I think Sweeney is guilty of letting players marinate too long, to a point where they've either soured on the organization or lost all confidence. Every year, we hear about guys asking for trades out of Boston/Providence.

I think it's negatively affected the Bruins ability to sign college free agents. Look at Ahcan, he's been NHL ready for 2 years now but is stuck in Providence. McLaughlin has a great NHL debut last year, then a great training camp where he looked like one of our 6 best forwards, but is sent to the minors anyway and buried there all year.

+1. Bussi has nothing more to prove at the AHL level imo.

He is RFA status at the moment correct? It would be nice to lock him up to a cheapie nhl contract.

- I wouldnt like it but also wouldnt be surprised if Swayman is traded instead. He will have a longer list of suitors and bring back a nicer return + have someone eat Reilly contract.

- This offseason...will be the toughest yet for Sweeney. Last offseason was a semi failure as he couldnt find takers for Reilly, Foligno or Smith. Had to pay salary via bonus and play the LTIR game during the season.

 

[BlackFrancis]

I think if you put Bussi in the minors for another year he'll be a UFA at the end.

I am usually all for the marination process in the minors but I think Sweeney is guilty of letting players marinate too long, to a point where they've either soured on the organization or lost all confidence. Every year, we hear about guys asking for trades out of Boston/Providence.

I think it's negatively affected the Bruins ability to sign college free agents. Look at Ahcan, he's been NHL ready for 2 years now but is stuck in Providence. McLaughlin has a great NHL debut last year, then a great training camp where he looked like one of our 6 best forwards, but is sent to the minors anyway and buried there all year.

You can certainly argue that your main point is true, but last season was Bussi's first full season as a pro and his first/only ELC season.

I don't think he's a group 6 UFA if he signs a 1 year extension this summer. I believe he wasn't under contract to Boston when he played those five games for Providence after his final NCAA season. I might be totally wrong, though.

 

[Alicat]

me too, let Bussi marinate this coming year, move Ullmark next year

The obsession some have about this unproven player is head scratching.

Suddenly people are willing to throw away a position of strength when you can clear cap space elsewhere.

He can stay in Providence as far as I am concerned. He’s not better than the guys we have in Boston.

 

[ODAAT]

The obsession some have about this unproven player is head scratching.

Suddenly people are willing to throw away a position of strength when you can clear cap space elsewhere.

He can stay in Providence as far as I am concerned. He’s not better than the guys we have in Boston.

no argument from me Ali, I am still a risk averse guy and I recall a conversation I heard or read where Ken Holland was discussing the philosophy of the Wings at that time that they would rather a prospect be over marinated than rushed too soon

I think sadly the cap plays a role with some of these kids being given a spot too early to keep the cap hit down but it can still be done. Goaltending and D-men , it seems , often take the longest to truly find their pro game, the B`s are in good shape with the big club for now, play the kid a ton next year with the PB`s

Then what if Ullmark has a bad year? You now lost your chance to get great value for him and to have an extra 5 mil for this season to keep someone else like Bert.

Just dont see the point in keeping him if the plan is to deal him a year later.

if he does he does, can`t move any player after a good year with the thought they made have a bad one following. Personally, I don`t see him having a bad year coming up. Might not be vezina like but....

 

[Dizzay]

The obsession some have about this unproven player is head scratching.

Suddenly people are willing to throw away a position of strength when you can clear cap space elsewhere.

He can stay in Providence as far as I am concerned. He’s not better than the guys we have in Boston.

Two years straight where Ullmark has been garbage in the playoffs. The difference this season was he will likely win the vezina which increases his return in a trade. If you need to clear space, get rid of the guy who can't stop a beachball in the playoffs.

Bussi may not be the guy you want backing up Swayman, I'd go and grab a cheap veteran.

 

[NDiesel]

if he does he does, can`t move any player after a good year with the thought they made have a bad one following. Personally, I don`t see him having a bad year coming up. Might not be vezina like but....

My main point of that is that if your plan is to trade the guy anyway in one season, why take that risk that he can ruin his value?

You trade him now when he is worth more rather than waiting a year and playing him with what will almost 100% be a worse team and risking that he will show he was a product of a very good team team last year. Add in if he faulters in another playoff run next season you might have trouble finding a suitor at that point.

You don't have to roll with Bussi either if you have playoff aspirations. Get a cheaper vet to split time with Swayman or as insurance if Bussi stumbles.

 

[Over the volcano]

The obsession some have about this unproven player is head scratching.

Suddenly people are willing to throw away a position of strength when you can clear cap space elsewhere.

He can stay in Providence as far as I am concerned. He’s not better than the guys we have in Boston.

He's going to be 25 this summer and spent a year and a half now playing pro hockey. If there were ever a time to get a chance to prove himself at the NHL level then the next year or so would be it

 

[rocketdan9]

The obsession some have about this unproven player is head scratching.

Suddenly people are willing to throw away a position of strength when you can clear cap space elsewhere.

He can stay in Providence as far as I am concerned. He’s not better than the guys we have in Boston.

Bussi is nhl unproven. But he was a top 3 AHL goalie last season (1st pro season). He stood on his head in the playoffs for Providence.

Bruins have capspace of approx 6m for the upcomimg season. This is without Swayman and Frederic signed. Plus space needed to sign Lauko and other RFAs.

Tough choices have to made. Can the team afford to trade Grz or Hall? No. Not really. The only position of strength/depth at the moment is goaltending.

 

[Sheppy]

I do think one of Ullmark/Swayman will be gone this summer.

I'm 70-30 on Ullmark being traded. I think you'd be foolish not to...

 

[NDiesel]

I do think one of Ullmark/Swayman will be gone this summer.

I'm 70-30 on Ullmark being traded. I think you'd be foolish not to...

Goalies are way too cylical (except the truly elite ones). I think you take way too much of a risk by not trading him while his value is this high. Pretty good chance he comes back to earth as it is incredibly difficult to piece together elite seasons as a goalie.

 

[Dr Hook]

If you feel like Swayman can do 50-55 games and like Bussi for 30, it makes sense to deal Ullmark. He has the most value of the three, and the highest salary. As for Bussi, every NHL goalie was an unproven player at one time (true for almost every single NHL player period). The only way you ever really know what you have in a guy is to play him. It's a gamble, to be sure, but Bussi showed he can handle the AHL just fine and he is an older guy for a prospect- it isn't like throwing some kid fresh out of junior in there.

 

[gerrycheeversmask]

And that blue chipper (Oettinger) hasn't had a great 2nd round and may be golfing tomorrow.

Florida are absolutely benefitting from putting 34-year old Bob up on a shelf for 3 1/2 weeks at the end of the season.

Hill didn't make a start for 2 full months. Steps in fresh as a daisy and helps win 3 out of 4.

I don't need the best goaltender. I just want the freshest one.

Swayman's freshness didn't help him much in game 7.

 

[rocketdan9]

Goalies are way too cylical (except the truly elite ones). I think you take way too much of a risk by not trading him while his value is this high. Pretty good chance he comes back to earth as it is incredibly difficult to piece together elite seasons as a goalie.

The "wall" is the 15 or 16 teams he OKs a trade will want him and pay a favorable asking price

Meaning - eat most of his salary. Give up high picks and/or prospects.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Bussi is nhl unproven. But he was a top 3 AHL goalie last season (1st pro season). He stood on his head in the playoffs for Providence.

Bruins have capspace of approx 6m for the upcomimg season. This is without Swayman and Frederic signed. Plus space needed to sign Lauko and other RFAs.

Tough choices have to made. Can the team afford to trade Grz or Hall? No. Not really. The only position of strength/depth at the moment is goaltending.

I think they can and should trade Grizz along with Coyle and Ullmark. Take this team in a new direction and get out of cap hell in the process.

Grzelcyk’s last 4 playoff runs with the Bruins he has 5 points in 32 games and is a -14. Time to see if they can get back some draft capital for these players.