Value of: Bonino resigning / trade @TDL

[ToastedFlower*]

What sort of contract should the Penguins be working towards with him over the summer and season. He will get a raise for sure, but how much and the term on it. Signing him to 3.5-4.0 a season for 3-4 years length of contract would be ideal.

Thoughts?

If we seek to trade him at the deadline what does he return? I know his play this season will depend on deadline value as well as the what have you done for me lately sentiment.

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[mytduxfan*]

If you move him at the TDL, I'd love to see him back on the Ducks.

 

[Seatoo]

Sutter???

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

What sort of contract should the Penguins be working towards with him over the summer and season. He will get a raise for sure, but how much and the term on it. Signing him to 3.5-4.0 a season for 3-4 years length of contract would be ideal.

This sounds about right, they should not trade him unless they get some kind of sick deal, he fits the core perfectly.

 

[Mick Jagr]

Bonino will 100% be resigned. Speculation of trading him is pointless, but I guess it's all in good fun.

 

[Prairie Habs]

"Resign = re-sign" is the "literally = figuratively" of HF, using a word to mean the exact opposite. When the national socialist grammar party finally takes over and the great grammar cleansing happens all free agent talk will make roughly 1000% more sense on the trade board.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Bonino will 100% be resigned. Speculation of trading him is pointless, but I guess it's all in good fun.

This is quite some confidence for a baseless statement

People forget how awful Bonino was before HBK got put together. I'd be hesitant to re-sign him until we see how he looks without Hagelin and Kessel. If he repeats his last year performance before HBK, I might not want to re-sign him for that much.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

This is quite some confidence for a baseless statement

People forget how awful Bonino was before HBK got put together. I'd be hesitant to re-sign him until we see how he looks without Hagelin and Kessel. If he repeats his last year performance before HBK, I might not want to re-sign him for that much.

Why would the Pens bother playing him on another line?

 

[ToastedFlower*]

"Resign = re-sign" is the "literally = figuratively" of HF, using a word to mean the exact opposite. When the national socialist grammar party finally takes over and the great grammar cleansing happens all free agent talk will make roughly 1000% more sense on the trade board.

I didn't realize I had to professionally write my proposal and have it reviewed by a lawyer before posting. Good to know bud.

 

[hagelin1381]

Bonino can be signed when Kunitz and Dupuis come off the books so there shouldn't be much of an issue

 

[Rebels57]

"Resign = re-sign" is the "literally = figuratively" of HF, using a word to mean the exact opposite. When the national socialist grammar party finally takes over and the great grammar cleansing happens all free agent talk will make roughly 1000% more sense on the trade board.

Hopefully nitpickers are part of the "cleanse."

 

[Prairie Habs]

I didn't realize I had to professionally write my proposal and have it reviewed by a lawyer before posting. Good to know bud.

The laughing thing and and the over the top way I wrote that were showing that I was just teasing you. If your going to be all humorless about thing then yes, you should make sure the words in your title mean what you want them to mean and no the exact opposite.

Hopefully nitpickers are part of the "cleanse."

See, if we only used words to mean what they are supposed to mean then I would understand what you are trying to say. As it is I'm not sure if you are using "nitpickers" to mean people who nitpick or people who don't nitpick. After the cleanse this will be much easier.

 

[wgknestrick]

Bonino will 100% be resigned. Speculation of trading him is pointless, but I guess it's all in good fun.

I don't know if I agree to this or not. Bonino WILL command a high price because he IS A very GOOD player. I'm sure there are teams that think he will be a very good 2C, or maybe a 1C with great talent on his wings for them (just like he was in PIT). What is he going to be on the Pens? Always a 3C, behind Malkin & Crosby. Someone will offer him around 6mil/year and a better role if Lucic/Ladd got that kind of money.

Don't forget that he scored just 1 less point than the Con Smithe winner AND also had a much better +- than Crosby too....while also playing 3 less minutes per game. Bonino had a better playoffs than both Crosby and Malkin by just about all analytical accounts (pts/60min, GF%, etc). That will not go unnoticed around the league. Don't act like Bonino just rode the coat tails of Hagelin and Kessel the entire time either. He was just as good as his talented wings and didn't look out of place against ANY of the top line Cs he faced off against. There will be teams that think they can reproduce that production from him. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong about that thought (No one knows now), they will set his value high.

That kind of player is not going to be 100% easy to sign without a lot of cap room IMO. Bonino has a LOT of leverage in any negotiation. He only makes about 2mil/year now. He will certainly want much more after seeing his comparables salaries.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

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A 4x4 contract for Bonino seems fair

 

[PetterssonSimp]

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Bonino should use Matt Perrault as his comparable. Similar players who can produce with talent but aren't completely to waste in a middle 6 role

 

[Empoleon8771]

Why would the Pens bother playing him on another line?

Because the Pens probably will struggle to repeat with Sheary, Rust and Kunitz as 3 of their 4 top-6 wingers. I also don't think it's smart to pay big bucks for a guy who only produces due to his linemates, it would be a Dupuis situation all over again.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Why would the Pens bother playing him on another line?

Because then you're relying on a top six that has Kunitz, Rust, and Sheary making up 3/4ths of it to win another Cup. Relying on Rust catching fire at just the right time (3 goals in two games to cap a comeback 7-game series win over the Lightning), or Sheary to produce like a top six winger, is asking for trouble, IMO. Especially with Kunitz declining to the point he should be no better than a 3rd liner at this point.

As for Bonino, it all comes down to his asking price. If he's content to be paid like a 3rd line player (less than $4 million per year), then I'd be fine re-signing him. But if he's going to make nearer to $5 million, then let him move on.

 

[WesMcCauley]

I don't know if I agree to this or not. Bonino WILL command a high price because he IS A very GOOD player. I'm sure there are teams that think he will be a very good 2C, or maybe a 1C with great talent on his wings for them (just like he was in PIT). What is he going to be on the Pens? Always a 3C, behind Malkin & Crosby. Someone will offer him around 6mil/year and a better role if Lucic/Ladd got that kind of money.

Don't forget that he scored just 1 less point than the Con Smithe winner AND also had a much better +- than Crosby too....while also playing 3 less minutes per game. Bonino had a better playoffs than both Crosby and Malkin by just about all analytical accounts (pts/60min, GF%, etc). That will not go unnoticed around the league. Don't act like Bonino just rode the coat tails of Hagelin and Kessel the entire time either. He was just as good as his talented wings and didn't look out of place against ANY of the top line Cs he faced off against. There will be teams that think they can reproduce that production from him. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong about that thought (No one knows now), they will set his value high.

That kind of player is not going to be 100% easy to sign without a lot of cap room IMO. Bonino has a LOT of leverage in any negotiation. He only makes about 2mil/year now. He will certainly want much more after seeing his comparables salaries.

Are you serious? Bonino a very good #2 or Maybe #1???? One good playoff run playing with a top line winger and a top 6 winger doesnt make him anything close to a #1C. Very good #3 or decent #2. Look at his numbers, not close to a #1 and its not like he is elite defensivly either. Good middle 6 center with a great playoff, nothing moore, nothing less

 

[PAZ]

I think you guys are underrating how much Bonino will command in free agency, especially if the HBK is kept together. \

a) Played a pivotol role centering the most productive line of the eventual SC winners.
b) Plays center.
c) Won a cup.

If he has a 50 point season + decent playoffs he'll likely command 5 mil+ as a FA.

 

[Creativero]

The only way the pens can keep him is making him an offer now and hoping jumps at the chance finnicial securely. If he plays next year like he did down to he stretch he's going to be over paid as a FA, no question about it. He's not take any 3-4 year at a salary that makes sense on a contender, the guys never made "Big Money" and I doubt he's gonna just pass on his big chance.

 

[Creativero]

The only way the pens can keep him is making him an offer now and hoping jumps at the chance finnicial securely. If he plays next year like he did down to he stretch he's going to be over paid as a FA, no question about it. He's not take any 3-4 year at a salary that makes sense on a contender, the guys never made "Big Money" and I doubt he's gonna just pass on his big chance.

And if does not take the offer now over the summer when he's on top of the world, wait until he misses a few games with an injury and offer just a little less with the hope he's overwhelmed by they symbolism.

 

[FlamesFan18]

4.5m AAV player IMO. I have him at #45 at center and #105 at forward. That makes him an average second line center.

 

[CherryToke]

Are you serious? Bonino a very good #2 or Maybe #1???? One good playoff run playing with a top line winger and a top 6 winger doesnt make him anything close to a #1C. Very good #3 or decent #2. Look at his numbers, not close to a #1 and its not like he is elite defensivly either. Good middle 6 center with a great playoff, nothing moore, nothing less

I wouldn't even call him a #2. Dude can't skate at all. Kessel carried him in the playoffs.

 

[Creativero]

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Bonino should use Matt Perrault as his comparable. Similar players who can produce with talent but aren't completely to waste in a middle 6 role

Why would Bonino compare himself to a guy on a 1 year 1.25 million dollar contract? The Penguins should make that comparison, Bonino should be pointing at Kessel and Hagglin if he wants to get paid. I hope you're not this poor guys agent.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Why would Bonino compare himself to a guy on a 1 year 1.25 million dollar contract? The Penguins should make that comparison, Bonino should be pointing at Kessel and Hagglin if he wants to get paid. I hope you're not this poor guys agent.

That makes literally no sense. Do you know how player comparisons work?