Bob McKenzie's Top 10 (Scout Survey)

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  1. JawandaPuck

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    EDM| 1. Nugent Hopkins (6 of 10 1st place votes)
    COL| 2. Larsson (2 of 10)
    FLA| 3. Landeskog (2 of 10)
    NJD| 4. Huberdeau
    NYI| 5. Couturier (ranked #1 in Sept)
    OTT| 6. Strome
    ATL| 7. Hamilton
    CBJ| 8. Murphy
    BOS| 9. Siemens (new to Top 10)
    MIN|10. Zibanejad (new to Top 10)


    Falling Out of Top 10 since January:
    Saad and Biggs


    The Rankings
    January Rankings
    September Rankings
    Draft Order
     
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    boredmale Registered User Sponsor

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    About what I expected. RNH, Larsson and Landeskog in some order 1,2,3 with 5 guys closely behind them
     
  3. 4thliner*

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    I don't know why some Ottawa fans are upset for losing the lottery, actually NYI lost too, so there are 2 losers here. They need game changing forwards here and picking at 6 guaranteed at least STROME who is dynamic offensive player. If not him then one of Huberdeau or Couturier.

    Now if they were picking 7th, no slight against the elite dman like Hamilton and Murphy, that would have sucked big-time.
     
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    I disagree with Huberdeau above Couturier. I just think SC is more of a complete player. But so be it. The way they were talking everybody basically writing RNH first in stone which I find hard to believe. But we will all see. 2 and a half more months of speculation.
     
  5. CantHaveTkachev

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    1.RNH (6 of 10 1st place votes)
    2.Larsson (2 of 10)
    3.Landeskog (2 of 10)

    to be more specific ;)
     
  6. RoyBoyCoy

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    You all misheard. He didn't say Zibanejad. He was mispronouncing Puempel. Clearly Zibanejad is not a top ten talent, and should fall so that the Habs can waste their pick on him.
     
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    Same here. I think this whole "Couturier's draft stock is falling" stuff is overblown. He goes from being ranked #1 month after to month and after a "poor" performance in the WJC, (He was playing a bottom-6 role, and did just that. Sure, he didn't blow anyone away, but he did his job) he drops to #5 despite his consistent and dominating performance in the QMJHL. Not to mention that the WJC probably isn't the best way to determine how good a player is.
     
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    Completely agree.

    Pierre MacGuire was on Ottawa radio this am and said that if teams pass on Couturier, they will regret it. He likened the potential drop on draft day to what happened with Fowler last year, and Parise in 2006.

    Another nugget Pierre dropped was that even as Couturier amassed almost 100 points again this season, he did it in ten less games...he was battling mono.

    Devils jump all over this guy at four IMO.
     
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    Agreed as well. There's no way he falls past 4, and I think Florida might give him a chance at 3, but then again it's hard to see Landeskog or Larsson falling out of the top 3.
     
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    i think the typical consensus about draft-eligible players at the WJHC is that they can't lower their stock with a weak performance, but they can improve it with a good performance.

    At least this is what I've heard Bob Mckenzie say before
     
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    I could see fla taking coturier since they have booth and hes exactly what tallon looks for but Landeskog is the BPA at 3rd
    Edm RNH
    Col Larsson
    Fla Coturier
    NJ Hamilton
    NYI Landeskog
     
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    The reason Couturier is dropping is simply because he is a boring prospect and GMs want high end talent in the top 10. All you have to do is watch the highlight videos of the top 8 guys on youtube, every one of them will make you change your mind on who you want your team to pick...except Couturier. A highlight video is supposed to show the best plays made by the player, how is it possible that Couturier has never made a nice play in his life? Every highlight video on him is of him skating in pregame warmups or just taking a weak wrister that gets saved, it's unreal how boring his highlights are.
     
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    You might be confusing the WJ's with the CHL Top Prospects game. I know that is exactly what they said about that game.
     
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    i've heard that about the prospects game as well, but i'm fairly sure he said the same about the wj's
     
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    I'll add this to the original post.
     
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    I like everything in there. Couldn't have made a better list myself.
     
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    But despite this he's a great player? Where would you have him ranked?
     
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    Where would the scouts be without youtube.
     
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    I disagree with this assessment. Landeskog is not considered to have high end talent, but he hasn't dropped.
     
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    Courturier has been touted as the top pic for so long, its no wonder hes falling. Everyone has been watching him for the last 2 years and some flaws become noticeable.

    If he falls to 6 I'll be shocked, especially with the news that he has had mono this season
     
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    Hall and Tavares were also in the spotlight for a long time, and they did not fall because of it.

    I think there is likely a valid reason for Courturier's fall.
     
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    I think the reason offered by TSN for couturier falling was that he has been consistently good all year, but hasn't improved. The players passing him have all shown huge improvement this year, while couturier has been steady, suggesting that he has plateaued or even peaked.
     
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    This is spot on. Couldn't agree more.
     
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    But in many scouts minds, Tavares did fall. He went from the clear number 1 to in a three man race. The Isles picked him, but his stock at the draft was not as high as it was a year earlier. What would have happened if Tavares spent part of his draft year battling mono, and his numbers suffered?
     
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    He would have went first overall.

    He was always a clear #1, Hedman and Duchene never really had a chance.
     

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