Blues Trade Proposals Part XXVIII

[Vladys Gumption]

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[Oberyn]

With the Hanzal to Sharks/Blues tidbit by Friedman on his 30 Thoughts I decided to pop by the Coyotes board to see their reaction. The first post I see is a poster thinking they can get Hertl or Fabbri. Lol.

 

[bleedblue1223]

If Jaskin plays well, I could see Jaskin being the young player piece of the deal.

 

[Oberyn]

If Jaskin plays well, I could see Jaskin being the young player piece of the deal.

Agreed, if a Hanzal deal happens I think Jaskin will likely be the main piece in the deal.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Hanzal due to his injury concerns and hope Armstrong strays away from him as a potential target.

 

[Note Worthy]

With the Hanzal to Sharks/Blues tidbit by Friedman on his 30 Thoughts I decided to pop by the Coyotes board to see their reaction. The first post I see is a poster thinking they can get Hertl or Fabbri. Lol.

Lol yeah I saw that. Are you kidding me?

 

[Dbrownss]

Hanzel would be such a par for course target. Waste of a trade.

 

[Evestay]

Team needs:

I think we need a 1C and a player with good net-front presence. What 1Cs or potential 1Cs can do both?

Simmonds and Pavelski come to mind (really wingers, I know...), but who else can you think of?

It would be awesome to do Shatty+cap for Krejci and then add a lower net guy like Ward or Shaw for Jaskin+. Or do Shatty for a potential 1C (I think NJ has best options there) and hope for better in the future. Alternatively, just add Simmonds and see if that is enough to change our current fortunes.

 

[542365]

I would like Hanzal personally, but I wouldn't give up a whole lot to get him.

 

[Note Worthy]

I would like Hanzal personally, but I wouldn't give up a whole lot to get him.

According to Friedman AZ wants a "young NHL ready center" so I can't imagine us being interested.

 

[Alklha]

Team needs:

I think we need a 1C and a player with good net-front presence. What 1Cs or potential 1Cs can do both?

Simmonds and Pavelski come to mind (really wingers, I know...), but who else can you think of?

It would be awesome to do Shatty+cap for Krejci and then add a lower net guy like Ward or Shaw for Jaskin+. Or do Shatty for a potential 1C (I think NJ has best options there) and hope for better in the future. Alternatively, just add Simmonds and see if that is enough to change our current fortunes.

If we could do Krejčí for Shattenkirk (extended) and Lehterä (or more likely Berglund), then we should do that instantly. Now that Krejčí is putting up points (5 in last 3 games after a 3 in 13 start), I'm not sure how much appetite Boston would have for it.

Simmonds would command a huge return, one we wouldn't want to pay.

 

[Evocable Manager]

Hanzal isn't a bad player, but him and Stastny would probably give each other concussions in practice by running into each other. Then Schwartz would trip over them and tear his ACL.

Jokes aside, if Hanzal costs Fabbri, there's no chance we'd have interest. Fabbri is just as good, if not better offensively, and with this season being a "step-back" year where we give the team to the youth, moving the youth certainly makes no sense.

I'm still 50/50 on Shattenkirk for Krejci (at least as a basis). No question we improve, but Krejci has a thick contract and I'm not certain he'll be worth it through the duration and if we'll be strapped because of it. I doubt Boston takes Lehtera, so we'd have to dump him or pray Vegas takes him to help our cap situation.

 

[LetsGoBooze]

Just getting opinions, not saying either team would/should do it. But what's your guys opinions on a

Tkachuk for Schwartz swap?

 

[TheBluePenguin]

Just getting opinions, not saying either team would/should do it. But what's your guys opinions on a

Tkachuk for Schwartz swap?

I think Blues would have to add, but I would do straight up from the Blues

 

[Bluesnatic27]

Just getting opinions, not saying either team would/should do it. But what's your guys opinions on a

Tkachuk for Schwartz swap?

Nope. I wouldn't even consider a 1 for 1 swap, and the add to Tkachuk needs to be much more than a late round pick.

I know Schwartz hasn't had the greatest season thus far, but we would be hoping Tkachuk would end up as good as Schwartz has been through his career.

 

[phxblue]

I think the Blues would do this in a heartbeat, but Calgary would laugh at Army.

Calgary would likely want to swap Parayko and Dougie Hamilton too. Even though, I doubt they would bite.

Schwartz is a replacable undersized 2nd line scorer. Tkachuk has the potential to be a rare, 1st line power forward.

 

[542365]

I think the Blues would do this in a heartbeat, but Calgary would laugh at Army.

Calgary would likely want to swap Parayko and Dougie Hamilton too. Even though, I doubt they would bite.

Schwartz is a replacable undersized 2nd line scorer. Tkachuk has the potential to be a rare, 1st line power forward.

60 point scorers are not "replaceable 2nd line scorers". Being small doesn't matter at all in today's NHL. The best player in the league weighs 190LBS soaking wet.

I wouldn't even consider a Schwartz for Tkachuk trade. The Flames would be thrilled if Tkachuk ended up as good as Schwartz is right now.

 

[KirkOut]

Have you guys lost your minds? The blues would have to add to Schwartz to get Tkachuk???? Wow...

 

[Bluesnatic27]

Have you guys lost your minds? The blues would have to add to Schwartz to get Tkachuk???? Wow...

But... But... Tkachuk has potential!...

 

[JoshFromMO]

That's a terrible proposal.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Nope...

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

I think the Blues would do this in a heartbeat, but Calgary would laugh at Army.

Calgary would likely want to swap Parayko and Dougie Hamilton too. Even though, I doubt they would bite.

Schwartz is a replacable undersized 2nd line scorer. Tkachuk has the potential to be a rare, 1st line power forward.

Schwartz is at the level Tkachuk hopes to be someday.

In what fantasy world would Calgary not bite on Hamilton for Parayko? Armstrong would be absolutely dumb to consider that swap.

 

[Dbrownss]

Thats just as bad as the Pietrangelo for Hamilton ideas years ago. So let me get this straight...We're trading our young player for a younger player that might turn out to be just as good.....

 

[phxblue]

Are you saying you would consider Cliff Ronning more valuable than a rookie year Kieth Tkachuk?

 

[simon IC]

I think the Blues would do this in a heartbeat, but Calgary would laugh at Army. I agree.

Calgary would likely want to swap Parayko and Dougie Hamilton too. Even though, I doubt they would bite. Absolutely not! Parayko is going nowhere.
Schwartz is a replacable undersized 2nd line scorer. Tkachuk has the potential to be a rare, 1st line power forward.

Once again I agree, but you won't find much agreement on this board. Many posters on this board seem to view Schwartz as virtually untouchable. The main proposed trade is a gamble, as it is basically a proven top 6 forward for a potential one, but it's one I'd be willing to make. The departure of Backes, and to a lesser extent Brouwer, have left a big hole in our forward group that we have nothing in the pipeline to replace. It's kind of moot anyway, because there's no way Calgary is dealing Tkachuk.

 

[phxblue]

Once again I agree, but you won't find much agreement on this board. Many posters on this board seem to view Schwartz as virtually untouchable. The main proposed trade is a gamble, as it is basically a proven top 6 forward for a potential one, but it's one I'd be willing to make. The departure of Backes, and to a lesser extent Brouwer, have left a big hole in our forward group that we have nothing in the pipeline to replace. It's kind of moot anyway, because there's no way Calgary is dealing Tkachuk.

I think you are spot on.