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I see.
Well as we always are, any ideas around Shattenkirk?
If the Blues can only trade one player let it be J-Bow. His play is horrendous!!
In game 7 I stopped counting his mistakes. There was one that had me yelling at the TV while my wife questioned my sanity as clearly J-Bow couldn't hear me. One sequence early in the game Dallas had the puck in our zone for too long. The Blues' forwards were getting gassed and starting to stand still. J-Bow gets the puck and can shoot if off the boards or flip it out, anything just get the ****ing puck out of the zone!! What does he do? Circles back around like he's a Dallas forward!! The puck gets turned over and Dallas continues to attack. Meanwhile J-Bow can't hear all the pleasantries I'm accusing him of being.
J-Bow has to go!!
If we dump Bouwmeester, would Shattenkirk not be extended and kept?
I wouldn't trade both.
Pietrangelo, Parayko and Shattenkirk are all RHD.
You could work special teams so that they all get significant minutes, but it is going to leave an awkward situation.
Shattenkirk/Parayko to the left side? It hasn't worked so far.
We'd likely have ~$17.5m invested in RHD in 2017/18; does that mean we are getting 3 average LHD or is our defensive group going to be insanely expensive?
If we see Parayko as being a 25+minute a game defenseman, we have to trade Shattenkirk. It's a poor use of cap space to keep him.
There are a number of teams that would trade for Bouwmeester, and I'm sure he'd waive for his preferred destination. The problem is that he is our best LHD and we are almost certainly trading Shattenkirk.
Moving 2 of our top-4 defensemen would be a bigger shake up than anything Armstrong has done.
Not that I'd be against it, just that it isn't what we should expect.
If we dump Bouwmeester, would Shattenkirk not be extended and kept?
I wouldn't trade both.
I'd argue that Gunnarsson has been the most consistent LHD on the Blues.
I don't see Army trading J-Bow but I think he should. I don't see a huge deal in trading Shattenkirk and J-Bow in the same off season. Parayko will be the #2 RHD going forward so that spot is secure. The 3rd RHD is up to Bortz & Schmaltz. It's not going to surprise me either if Schmaltz gets more ice time next year then is being talked about currently.
If J-Bow was dealt there are some options in free agency. Or it opens a spot up on the left side. It depends on what stage the Blues see their prospects at too. I didn't think the Blues would roll 2 rookie D all season long heading into this season but they did.
Who knows, maybe the D next year is:
Gunnarrson Pietrangelo
Edmundson Parayko
Walman Schmaltz/Bortuzzo
All I know is J-Bow didn't just start looking deficient when the playoffs started. He's looked bad a big part of the entire year.
Getting Colin Miller would be nice, but unlikely Boston goes for it. He was their best possession defenseman and most productive defenseman offensively. Especially considering he's 23. We don't need Miller as we have some young D and are set on the right side. It's more likely Boston throws in a forward [not sure which one] then a defenseman.There's no way the Blues would go with that young of a defense.
I think the Blues should just package Shattenkirk and Lehtera for the best center they can get. Maybe that's Krejci from Boston, along with a guy like Colin Miller as well. I would be willing to add a bit more if necessary. I don't see either of those 2 fitting into our long-term plans and that's a type of trade that I think would basically put us over the top and make us extremely good.
The team has already shown they are close, so I would keep everything else pretty much the same. I'd love to replace Bouwmeester with a cheaper option but like it's been mentioned, it's probably not realistic.
Shattenkirk and Lehtera are definitely the guys I'm trying to trade this summer if I am Armstrong.
There's no way the Blues would go with that young of a defense.