Blues Trade Proposals 2020-21 - Part II

[Stealth JD]

Any team acquiring Eichel could conceivably LTIR and rehab him all season after letting him have his ADR-procedure, in hopes of having him healthy prior to the start of the playoffs. Could the Blues survive a season w/o Thomas, knowing they have a long-term, young replacement for top-6 center duties?

Regular Season:
Kyrou-ROR-Perron
Neighbors/Neal-Schenn-Buchnevich
Saad-Bozak-Tarasenko
Clifford-Joshua/Brown-Barby
LTIR: Eichel, Sunqvist

Playoffs:
Schenn-Eichel-Buchnevich
Kyrou-ROR-Perron
Saad-Bozak-Tarasenko
Neal-Sundqvist-Barbashev

To Buffalo: Thomas, 2022 1st (protected top-3), Bolduc/Kostin, conditional 1st ('23 or '24) based on games played or Eichel's perfermance post-surgery.

Give Tarasenko a full year to prove his heath and re-establish some value; and so long as he's dealt by next off-season, the salary cap issues are pretty much resolved.

 

[Xerloris]

Any team acquiring Eichel could conceivably LTIR and rehab him all season after letting him have his ADR-procedure, in hopes of having him healthy prior to the start of the playoffs. Could the Blues survive a season w/o Thomas, knowing they have a long-term, young replacement for top-6 center duties?

Regular Season:
Kyrou-ROR-Perron
Neighbors/Neal-Schenn-Buchnevich
Saad-Bozak-Tarasenko
Clifford-Joshua/Brown-Barby
LTIR: Eichel, Sunqvist

Playoffs:
Schenn-Eichel-Buchnevich
Kyrou-ROR-Perron
Saad-Bozak-Tarasenko
Neal-Sundqvist-Barbashev

To Buffalo: Thomas, 2022 1st (protected top-3), Bolduc/Kostin, conditional 1st ('23 or '24) based on games played or Eichel's perfermance post-surgery.

Give Tarasenko a full year to prove his heath and re-establish some value; and so long as he's dealt by next off-season, the salary cap issues are pretty much resolved.

TBH I would go Thomas and 3x 1st's + Kostin. Eichel is a f***ing stud and with the complimentary pieces he would have here it would be awesome to watch. I mean I admit I have no interest in figuring out the cap so I'd leave that up to Army.

 

[Celtic Note]

The problem with a move for Eichel is that you essentially are creating a huge hole this season and really looking towards next season. Given the age of our vets and the desire by the organization to be competitive, is this the right move? I also wonder about the cap. Tarasenko plus another big contract would have to be on the way out. Does this also limit our ability to shore up the LD?

 

[Thallis]

Any team acquiring Eichel could conceivably LTIR and rehab him all season after letting him have his ADR-procedure, in hopes of having him healthy prior to the start of the playoffs. Could the Blues survive a season w/o Thomas, knowing they have a long-term, young replacement for top-6 center duties?

Regular Season:
Kyrou-ROR-Perron
Neighbors/Neal-Schenn-Buchnevich
Saad-Bozak-Tarasenko
Clifford-Joshua/Brown-Barby
LTIR: Eichel, Sunqvist

Playoffs:
Schenn-Eichel-Buchnevich
Kyrou-ROR-Perron
Saad-Bozak-Tarasenko
Neal-Sundqvist-Barbashev

To Buffalo: Thomas, 2022 1st (protected top-3), Bolduc/Kostin, conditional 1st ('23 or '24) based on games played or Eichel's perfermance post-surgery.

Give Tarasenko a full year to prove his heath and re-establish some value; and so long as he's dealt by next off-season, the salary cap issues are pretty much resolved.

It honestly doesn't matter if they survive the season without Thomas; they may not survive the season with him. Eichel and Buchnevich are pieces you can be sure are worth retooling around.

 

[Stealth JD]

The problem with a move for Eichel is that you essentially are creating a huge hole this season and really looking towards next season. Given the age of our vets and the desire by the organization to be competitive, is this the right move? I also wonder about the cap. Tarasenko plus another big contract would have to be on the way out. Does this also limit our ability to shore up the LD?

But if you can make it to the post-season with Bozak as your 3C instead of Thomas; suddenly you get to cheat the system like Kane & and the Hawks and Kucherov & the Lightning by activating Eichel just in time for the post-season, while exceeding the cap by ~$8M/year.

Then - you get four more years of Eichel and Buch...teamed with Perron, ROR, Schenn, Kyrou and whomever you can get for Tarasenko.

 

[joe galiba]

With the neck injury, anyone who gives up anything of value is taking a huge risk
I wouldn't give up anything but draft picks that are conditional based upon health
anyone who trades lots of value for Eichel without KNOWING his health at this point runs the risk of screwing their franchise for a decade
same reason Valdi wasn't traded, you cannot trade value for a hope and a maybe

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

With the neck injury, anyone who gives up anything of value is taking a huge risk
I wouldn't give up anything but draft picks that are conditional based upon health
anyone who trades lots of value for Eichel without KNOWING his health at this point runs the risk of screwing their franchise for a decade
same reason Valdi wasn't traded, you cannot trade value for a hope and a maybe

Taking basically 2 years off is a tall order for any player to recover from. That’s what Eichel faces, if they do the surgery tomorrow. I really don’t know where this saga goes next, but he’s probably never going to have the career he might have had.

 

[Celtic Note]

But if you can make it to the post-season with Bozak as your 3C instead of Thomas; suddenly you get to cheat the system like Kane & and the Hawks and Kucherov & the Lightning by activating Eichel just in time for the post-season, while exceeding the cap by ~$8M/year.

Then - you get four more years of Eichel and Buch...teamed with Perron, ROR, Schenn, Kyrou and whomever you can get for Tarasenko.

How likely is he ready to go by the time playoffs hit and how likely are we to make them without Thomas?

 

[Stealth JD]

How likely is he ready to go by the time playoffs hit and how likely are we to make them without Thomas?

Uh-huh.
Army is either determining that...or sitting quietly on the side-lines because Eichel would break his philosophy of building with depth and not high-priced, top-end talent (i.e. Pietrangelo).

He and the organization have never been shy about acquiring premium talent via trade; so who knows. If you can upgrade the roster and improve your chances of winning now AND in the future, that's got to be a consideration regardless of player salary. But it's a huge gamble in the short-term without (1) believing your depth even without Thomas (in the event of injury, for instance) is good enough to beat out 3 or 4 teams in your own division for a playoff spot; and (2) confidence that post-surgery Eichel will be as effective as pre-injury Eichel, or at least close...and immediately. If both of those answers are an affirmative, that would take some major cajones to still pull off the move.

Not just:

More like:

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Ow

 

[542365]

Stevie Y will get him for like Fabbri and a second because he just bends every GM over in trades.

 

[DoubleK81]

Buffalo won't even let potential trade partners see his medical evals, thats a huge red flag in itself.

 

[Blueston]

Buffalo won't even let potential trade partners see his medical evals, thats a huge red flag in itself.

I thought Sabres gave his agent permission to share medical info with interested teams?

 

[Thallis]

Buffalo won't even let potential trade partners see his medical evals, thats a huge red flag in itself.

They've been showing them for the past week

 

[DoubleK81]

I thought Sabres gave his agent permission to share medical info with interested teams?

They've been showing them for the past week

Ah, I missed this news.

 

[SIU LAW]

This may seem like sacrilege, but I am curious if Perunovich could not be a key piece in a big trade one day. He has got skill for days, but boy is he small for a defenseman. He could be quite the shiny object to land something significant down the road…

 

[jjniner]

Any chance they would take Krug if we take all of Jack’s salary? Krug plus obviously..then bring Perunavich up

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Any chance they would take Krug if we take all of Jack’s salary? Krug plus obviously..then bring Perunavich up

doubt it, but even if they would, we couldn't fit it under the cap

 

[simon IC]

Any chance they would take Krug if we take all of Jack’s salary? Krug plus obviously..then bring Perunavich up

Krug would have to waive his NTC to go to Buffalo. Fat chance of that.