Blues Trade Proposals 2018-2019 - Part VII

[Alklha]

If he comes cheap, maybe. Who do you give up for him? Maybe a Sanford or Blais kind of player? I don't know what his value is.

That's probably his value just now, the only reason I can see him being available is that he is a bit of an odd man out there. If the rumours about issues between Kostin and the organisation are true, which I don't really buy, then I suppose something around Kostin could make sense. We'd need to see him as a legit NHL option to go down that road, but he played enough games for Carolina to get an idea of that.

 

[ezcreepin]

That's probably his value just now, the only reason I can see him being available is that he is a bit of an odd man out there. If the rumours about issues between Kostin and the organisation are true, which I don't really buy, then I suppose something around Kostin could make sense. We'd need to see him as a legit NHL option to go down that road, but he played enough games for Carolina to get an idea of that.

I would rather explore a trade of Puljujarvi for Kostin rather than Fluery for Kostin. I think Kostin has more value than Fluery at this point, seeing as he looks to be the odd man out. I would consider a swap of Schmaltz+ for Fluery though.

 

[Blueston]

I would rather explore a trade of Puljujarvi for Kostin rather than Fluery for Kostin. I think Kostin has more value than Fluery at this point, seeing as he looks to be the odd man out. I would consider a swap of Schmaltz+ for Fluery though.

Schmaltz has less than zero value.

 

[Brockon]

I would rather explore a trade of Puljujarvi for Kostin rather than Fluery for Kostin. I think Kostin has more value than Fluery at this point, seeing as he looks to be the odd man out. I would consider a swap of Schmaltz+ for Fluery though.

Schmaltz has less than zero value.

Especially to an organization that strong on the blue line. Carolina has an embarrassment of wealth on the back end. A reclamation project that isn't waiver exempt is useless to them.

 

[LetsGoBooze]

I wonder if Haydn Fleury could be had for cheap from Carolina. He loses his waiver exemption and right now he'd be in a battle to make the Carolina roster with a couple of their other quality defensive prospects. The market seems focused on RHD, and if we aren't comfortable with what Edmundson is looking for then Fleury could be a replacement.

I like this idea. But, i am also one that wants to move on from Eddy this offseason.

 

[Meatwagon]

Any thoughts of trying to get Burakovsky from the Capitals? Looks like they may be in a cap pinch and may not qualify him.

 

[Alklha]

I would rather explore a trade of Puljujarvi for Kostin rather than Fluery for Kostin. I think Kostin has more value than Fluery at this point, seeing as he looks to be the odd man out. I would consider a swap of Schmaltz+ for Fluery though.

I don't think Puljujärvi for Kostin would make much sense. It would also require also moving one of Blais, Sanford or Fabbri to open a roster spot, and Puljujärvi has shown himself to be problematic when he isn't getting what he wants. So a waiver exempt player for a waiver eligible forward would create a headache. Still, any move for Fleury would only make sense if we decided to move on from Edmundson.

If we're having problems with Kostin, as some are speculating, then I'm not sure he would have too much value.

Especially to an organization that strong on the blue line. Carolina has an embarrassment of wealth on the back end. A reclamation project that isn't waiver exempt is useless to them.

Edit: Totally misread your post.

 

[ezcreepin]

I don't think Puljujärvi for Kostin would make much sense. It would also require also moving one of Blais, Sanford or Fabbri to open a roster spot, and Puljujärvi has shown himself to be problematic when he isn't getting what he wants. So a waiver exempt player for a waiver eligible forward would create a headache. Still, any move for Fleury would only make sense if we decided to move on from Edmundson.

If we're having problems with Kostin, as some are speculating, then I'm not sure he would have too much value.

I wouldn't describe him as a reclamation project. He's not 23 yet and he's had almost 100 NHL games, admittedly taking a step back this season. He's good enough for the roster, it's just whether he's still in 7th Dman territory or not.

While he might not be in their plans due to their wealth of talent on defense, I'm sure other teams will be interested.

I can understand not wanting to move Kostin though.

He was referring to Schmaltz

 

[kimzey59]

I wouldn't describe him as a reclamation project. He's not 23 yet and he's had almost 100 NHL games, admittedly taking a step back this season. He's good enough for the roster, it's just whether he's still in 7th Dman territory or not.

While he might not be in their plans due to their wealth of talent on defense, I'm sure other teams will be interested.

I don’t know that I agree that Schmaltz is “good enough for the roster”.

Army went out and got Del Zotto at the deadline as the #8, Butler was clearly ahead of him on the depth chart and given that Reinke was in the box during game 7 instead of Schmaltz, it is pretty clear that he’s not considered one of our top 9 guys.

Schmaltz needs to be on the NHL roster given his contract and age; but he has yet to actually prove that he belongs there. He might have a better showing on a team with less depth; but for the Blues, he dropped way down the depth chart this year to the point where I really can’t see him having any kind of future here. Right now, he either needs traded or he’ll end up going the group VI UFA route.

 

[Alklha]

I don’t know that I agree that Schmaltz is “good enough for the roster”.

Army went out and got Del Zotto at the deadline as the #8, Butler was clearly ahead of him on the depth chart and given that Reinke was in the box during game 7 instead of Schmaltz, it is pretty clear that he’s not considered one of our top 9 guys.

Schmaltz needs to be on the NHL roster given his contract and age; but he has yet to actually prove that he belongs there. He might have a better showing on a team with less depth; but for the Blues, he dropped way down the depth chart this year to the point where I really can’t see him having any kind of future here. Right now, he either needs traded or he’ll end up going the group VI UFA route.

Yeah, I completely misread the post and thought it was about Fleury.

Agree with you, Schmaltz isn't good enough for the roster.

 

[Xerloris]

If Schenn thinks that he has a chance for prolonged success in St.Louis it's very possible he takes a discount. Same for Petro. I think both will take team friendly deals.

 

[Alklha]

If Schenn thinks that he has a chance for prolonged success in St.Louis it's very possible he takes a discount. Same for Petro. I think both will take team friendly deals.

I hope so, but it depends on how the discount would work. He'll be at the age where he knows it's his last big contract. I wouldn't be surprised if the discount was a "free" 8th season, which brings the cap down. Like if he looks at UFA and wants $52.5m over seven years in the right spot, but would sign here for $52.5m over eight. Drops the cap hit by almost a million, adds a year where he likely wouldn't be getting a high salary anyway and there is always the LTIR possibility. He still gets the money, but we're having to give uncomfortable term.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

So, what did I miss? When did Reinke become our best defensive prospect on the RHD? And what happened to Schmaltz?

 

[tfriede2]

So, what did I miss? When did Reinke become our best defensive prospect on the RHD? And what happened to Schmaltz?

Last year when Schmaltz showed that he’s no more than an AHL player, and Reinke set rookie records for SA.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Last year when Schmaltz showed that he’s no more than an AHL player, and Reinke set rookie records for SA.

Nice, I lost track of a lot of hockey stuff on deployment, I've been super confused the past few days about Reinke, lol.

 

[tfriede2]

Nice, I lost track of a lot of hockey stuff on deployment, I've been super confused the past few days about Reinke, lol.

Ha, no worries - he kind of came out of nowhere. He projects more as a 3rd pairing PP guy who can move the puck, but those guys are valuable too.

 

[LetsGoBooze]

Pick 46 were coming for you! (prediction)

 

[Reality Czech]

Nice, I lost track of a lot of hockey stuff on deployment, I've been super confused the past few days about Reinke, lol.

I was slightly confused when I saw him lifting the Cup as well!