Movies: Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

[beowulf]

Someone on TicTok had a horrible suggestion about the movie. Not surprised anymore, it's sadly the norm these days.

It's been removed from TicTok but a bunch of articles/sites have it. Not worth getting into how wrong it is (it's worth a discussion but not here).

Ya saw it and it's a dumb idea.

 

[Neutrinos]

Does the current King/Queen of Wakanda automatically become Black Panther?

The problem with having the 95lb tech nerd take over as Black Panther is that it was clearly established in the first film that anyone can become ruler of Wakanda by challenging and beating the current ruler in a fight

So, at any point going forward, any man and half the women in Wakanda could usurp Shuri if they wanted to, and wouldn't break a sweat in the process

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I will likely watch it but I am having a hard time caring as much without Boseman, which obviously isn't their fault and having Shuri replace him as the Black Panther....like I said I will give the movie a shot but I still need to be sold on this.

 

[beowulf]

Does the current King/Queen of Wakanda automatically become Black Panther?

The problem with having the 95lb tech nerd take over as Black Panther is that it was clearly established in the first film that anyone can become ruler of Wakanda by challenging and beating the current ruler in a fight

So, at any point going forward, any man and half the women in Wakanda could usurp Shuri if they wanted to, and wouldn't break a sweat in the process

Not sure how the MCU will handle it but the person making the challenge has to have a claim to it via lineage in one of the clans that live in Wakanda if I recall. So not just anyone can make a challenge and not at just any time.

 

[Tonneau]

Does the current King/Queen of Wakanda automatically become Black Panther?

T'Challa was Black Panther before becoming king.

 

[barriers]

I'd be the least surprised if Shuri did end up becoming the Black Panther but I'm still not convinced the promotion isn't being intentionally misleading pointing in her direction. I wouldn't be shocked if Okoye or Nakia took up the mantle or if all three did.

I'm almost expecting an incomplete scene with them debating who should become the Black Panther as the climax approaches, the next scenes start with a costumed Black Panther that is eventually revealed to be Shuri,only for Okoye to show up as a Black Panther as well to turn the tide against the Submariner.

 

[beowulf]

T'Challa was Black Panther before becoming king.

This was in part to do as he was next in line and his father had become too old for the job as it is so physically demanding even for someone supped up on special flowers!

 

[codswallop]

Ya saw it and it's a dumb idea.

Dumb is one word for it. I would have used another word but probably best not to get into that here.

 

[trojansoilers]

I'd be the least surprised if Shuri did end up becoming the Black Panther but I'm still not convinced the promotion isn't being intentionally misleading pointing in her direction. I wouldn't be shocked if Okoye or Nakia took up the mantle or if all three did.

I'm almost expecting an incomplete scene with them debating who should become the Black Panther as the climax approaches, the next scenes start with a costumed Black Panther that is eventually revealed to be Shuri,only for Okoye to show up as a Black Panther as well to turn the tide against the Submariner.

I could see them doing something like that, but increase the cheese factor by 100 by saying that the Black Panther mantle isn't just for one person, it's for everyone who loves and wants to protect Wakanda.

 

[beowulf]

 

[StreetHawk]

Not sure how the MCU will handle it but the person making the challenge has to have a claim to it via lineage in one of the clans that live in Wakanda if I recall. So not just anyone can make a challenge and not at just any time.

That’s what they showed in the first movie. Should be consistent with that.

 

[Jussi]

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever | Rotten Tomatoes

In Marvel Studios' "Black Panther: Wakanda Forever," Queen Ramonda (Angela Bassett), Shuri (Letitia Wright), M'Baku (Winston Duke), Okoye (Danai Gurira) and the Dora Milaje (including Florence Kasumba) fight to protect their nation from intervening world powers in the wake of King T'Challa's...

www.rottentomatoes.com

 

[Jussi]

 

[John Price]

I usually go on a review embargo and omit any spoilers, even little details, that aren't in the trailers but I went to RT today to check the reviews and they seem good. I did this because I will unfortunately not be able to see the film tomorrow like I normally would do for any opening movie. Fact is I might not be able to see it until Saturday.

So far the movie looks good so that's good to hear

 

[codswallop]

I usually go on a review embargo and omit any spoilers, even little details, that aren't in the trailers but I went to RT today to check the reviews and they seem good. I did this because I will unfortunately not be able to see the film tomorrow like I normally would do for any opening movie. Fact is I might not be able to see it until Saturday.

So far the movie looks good so that's good to hear

I stopped going by the critic reviews on RT a good while ago. Too many 1 or 2 line hyper-positive reviews that just praise a movie without giving any detail whatsoever as to why. Reads like bought and paid for reviews.

There are some that got to see it early and have already put their opinions out. A mixed bag. A couple really liked it, a few others absolutely hated it. Liked it or not, there were a couple common points. It was long and it wasn't really upbeat. Not the best news for repeated viewings.

Personally, I haven't liked what I've seen so far in the trailers and elsewhere. Saw a screencap of the Ironheart suit yesterday; just, no.
But that's me. If anyone else is looking forward to it, go for it. I'll be sitting this one out.

 

[blueandgoldguy]

It will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, for this movie to live up to the hype and reviews of the first one. Of course, given that the actor who played the main character has died this is inevitable, but it doesn't help that the powers-that-be have decided to cast an unlikeable person as the new Black Panther.

 

[x Tame Impala]

It will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, for this movie to live up to the hype and reviews of the first one. Of course, given that the actor who played the main character has died this is inevitable, but it doesn't help that the powers-that-be have decided to cast an unlikeable person as the new Black Panther.

How is she unlikeable?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

How is she unlikeable?

 

[codswallop]

How is she unlikeable?

 

[Jussi]

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[codswallop]

Yup, that's pretty much how I look/feel from the Marvel offerings in the last few years (with the exception of Spiderman).

But like I said, that's just me. If you want to see it and/or really enjoy it, great. I sure as hell can't throw stones about others enjoyment of movies, TV, entertainment in general.

An example: Out Cold. Seen it a bunch of times, always entertaining to me. It is objectively a bad movie; it would take twice as long as the movie itself to point out all that's wrong with it. But I have and always will love it. To each their own.

 

[Jussi]

Yup, that's pretty much how I look/feel from the Marvel offerings in the last few years (with the exception of Spiderman).

But like I said, that's just me. If you want to see it and/or really enjoy it, great. I sure as hell can't throw stones about others enjoyment of movies, TV, entertainment in general.

An example: Out Cold. Seen it a bunch of times, always entertaining to me. It is objectively a bad movie; it would take twice as long as the movie itself to point out all that's wrong with it. But I have and always will love it. To each their own.

 

[Hockey 4 everyone]

saw this last night, and it was really great. really in the top tier of marvel movies.

the acting, plot, effects, villain, soundtrack, social overtones... everything came together to make a great movie.

i am a comic fan and i was very curious (maybe mildly concerned) to see how they did with namor and his civilization it was great.

i can't believe they pulled this off. what a movie.

 

[MMC]

I really didn't like the first one at all, hoping to enjoy this one more

 

[Hockey 4 everyone]

my wife does not particularly like superhero movies. she has seen a decent number of MCU movies because of me, and enjoyed a few of them (spiderman movies, end game).

she thought this was the best marvel movie she has seen.

they really did an amazing job in making a great movie that also is a great comic book movie and a powerful meditation on grief/mourning (both individual and societal).

what a triumph.