NFL: Black Monday 2021 (Gase, Lynn, Marrone, & Pederson fired)

[Blitzkrug]

Both good moves.

Schotty Jr has always been a hack going back to his days as the Jets OC. His offense didn't set those records, Russell Wilson and DJ Metcalf did.

As for Pagano. As crude as it is to say i think cancer might have been the best thing to happen to his career.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I hate this organization so much

f***ing McCaskey's are easily among the worst owners in sports

 

[StreetHawk]

Both good moves.

Schotty Jr has always been a hack going back to his days as the Jets OC. His offense didn't set those records, Russell Wilson and DJ Metcalf did.

As for Pagano. As crude as it is to say i think cancer might have been the best thing to happen to his career.

Too bad Seattle didn’t move off Norton as well. D needs help. Tackling look poor at times this season.

 

[EpochLink]

Both good moves.

Schotty Jr has always been a hack going back to his days as the Jets OC. His offense didn't set those records, Russell Wilson and DJ Metcalf did.

As for Pagano. As crude as it is to say i think cancer might have been the best thing to happen to his career.

Schottenheimer, just like his dad used way too much Marty Ball which came back to bite them.

 

[StreetHawk]

Schottenheimer, just like his dad used way too much Marty Ball which came back to bite them.

Running the ball is fine. But his schemes and patterns for the receiving core was too basic. If Russ didn’t buy time it would have to be a very quick short pass or it would go incomplete.

disappointed that Norton was not relieved as well.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Holy #### what a disaster of a end of year press conference with George McCaskey (Ownership) , Ted Phillips (President) Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy

 

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[Blackhawkswincup]

What a f***ing debacle of a press conference

Also Olin Kreutz and Kyle Long aint having it with this "Nagy/Pace Culture BS" or "These guys are growing BS"

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Not a Bears fan but that Chicago PC is something else. Wow. Similar to the PC the Canadiens used to have for the past couple of years (i.e., Bergevin/Molson contradicting themselves onstage and making things worse).

 

[Evincar]

Both good moves.

Schotty Jr has always been a hack going back to his days as the Jets OC. His offense didn't set those records, Russell Wilson and DJ Metcalf did.

As for Pagano. As crude as it is to say i think cancer might have been the best thing to happen to his career.

How is firing just Schotty and not Carroll a good move? Its Carroll that has held back the offense with his run first, conservative approach that doesnt work in todays NFL.

 

[StreetHawk]

How is firing just Schotty and not Carroll a good move? Its Carroll that has held back the offense with his run first, conservative approach that doesnt work in todays NFL.

You can run first, like Shanahan in SF. But, you can't be that basic, which is Seattle's issue. From the time Carroll arrived he played basic O and D. But, the D had elite talent that they found on day 3 of the NFL draft. Chancellor, Sherman, Wright, along with All Pro Wagner in round 2, and quality depth in Maxwell, Thurmond, Lane etc. Offence lacked the explosive player. So, Pete kept it simple.

Talent on D has gotten worse, but they still play their cover 3. Simple works when you have the talent to execute it. Seattle does not now.

 

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[sigma six]

How is firing just Schotty and not Carroll a good move? Its Carroll that has held back the offense with his run first, conservative approach that doesnt work in todays NFL.

It worked fine, when we had Marshawn.
The thing is you want Carroll around for most what he does. Players love coming to Seattle because of him and his culture.
The downside is as you say; he meddles in the offense and is responsible for the dumb sideline shit that we see every game. The whole fanbase would like to get someone like Mike McDaniel in as OC but we're nervous that Pete's meddling will scare off the best candidates.

 

[StreetHawk]

It worked fine, when we had Marshawn.
The thing is you want Carroll around for most what he does. Players love coming to Seattle because of him and his culture.
The downside is as you say; he meddles in the offense and is responsible for the dumb sideline shit that we see every game. The whole fanbase would like to get someone like Mike McDaniel in as OC but we're nervous that Pete's meddling will scare off the best candidates.

If Carroll let’s the OC do his job they would be fine. Need to be more creative. But he seems to like basic. If you are more talented then that can work. But Seattle isn’t that ahead in talent anymore. If you don’t find talent from round 3 onwards you won’t be.