Best 4th line in the NHL?

[Namtsua]

What? Le testube has a goal and two assists?

Scored a beaty of a shorthanded goal against Calgary

 

[WesMcCauley]

Grabner(2G)-Pirri(2G1A)-Fast(2A)

 

[TT1]

Grabner(2G)-Pirri(2G1A)-Fast(2A)

Fast is good

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Is Cizikas seriously playing on the 4th line for the the Isles?

Paying almost 3.5 million for a 4th liner center is just mad to me

 

[Lame Lambert]

Is Cizikas seriously playing on the 4th line for the the Isles?

Paying almost 3.5 million for a 4th liner center is just mad to me

They get the most ice time behind the 1st line. "The 4th line" is just what they're labeled as.

 

[canuckster19]

Is Cizikas seriously playing on the 4th line for the the Isles?

Paying almost 3.5 million for a 4th liner center is just mad to me

Burrows is taking up 4.5 in cap space as a 4th line winger this year, although his paid salary went down to 3 million.

 

[BatVader]

Habs 4th better be good. It's the only thing Bergevin has been paying attention to for 4yrs

 

[10coach*]

They get the most ice time behind the 1st line. "The 4th line" is just what they're labeled as.

That is no bueno.

 

[Boud]

Habs 4th better be good. It's the only thing Bergevin has been paying attention to for 4yrs

I mean... Byron is 41% CF while Mitchell and Danault are sub 40% at 5 on 5.

If you look at CF% Rel Tm which measure possesion stats compared to teammates on the same team they are also bottom 3 on the team.


Best possesion players on the team are Radulov and Petry which matches with what I've seen from Habs games. Petry and Radu have been monsters are generating and creating plays for Montreal.

No players can sustain playing sub 40% and be effective over a long period of time. Especially when you compare to players on the same team, playing the same system with the same coach.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

My team's, of course.

 

[TT1]

I mean... Byron is 41% CF while Mitchell and Danault are sub 40% at 5 on 5.

If you look at CF% Rel Tm which measure possesion stats compared to teammates on the same team they are also bottom 3 on the team.


Best possesion players on the team are Radulov and Petry which matches with what I've seen from Habs games. Petry and Radu have been monsters are generating and creating plays for Montreal.

No players can sustain playing sub 40% and be effective over a long period of time. Especially when you compare to players on the same team, playing the same system with the same coach.

Oh boy, look at their usage. CF has flaws just like +/- anyways.

Here's a few posts on the effectiveness of corsi (which has several variables) vs other adv. stats:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=123514991&postcount=56

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=123504491&postcount=36

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Well I will argue the Pens.

How many teams get a guy scoring 16 goals playing on the bottom line. Excellent at face offs. Excellent at defense.

Seriously and Khun and Fehr are no slouches

Best 4th AINEC

 

[WesMcCauley]

Well I will argue the Pens.

How many teams get a guy scoring 16 goals playing on the bottom line. Excellent at face offs. Excellent at defense.

Seriously and Khun and Fehr are no slouches

Best 4th AINEC

NYR has Pirri as the 4th line center and he scored 22 goals in 49 games two seasons ago

 

[Nordic*]

Obviously the fourth line of my favorite team.

Duh.

 

[cbj21]

Well I will argue the Pens.

How many teams get a guy scoring 16 goals playing on the bottom line. Excellent at face offs. Excellent at defense.

Seriously and Khun and Fehr are no slouches

Best 4th AINEC

Hartnell scored 23 last season and is stuck on the Jackets 4th line ..

 

[Allan92]

Hm for the Rangers Grabner-Pirri-Fast have been good so far

 

[Kojo]

This is slowly turning into a legit 4th liner thread.

 

[Chez Weber]

I guess all the Sabres depth flyers finally paid off for the Habs (ex-Sabres in the case of Byron)

Going by the lines thread it's easily Kulemin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck. LA, STL and SJS have really solid 4th lines. Duo of Pitlick-Letestu has looked really good too.

So far Clutterbuck is 4th in TOI, Kulemin 6th and Cizikas 8th.

There's no way this is a 4th line even with the PK time. Not counting the salaries..

 

[Sideshow Raheem]

Lol Montreal's fourth line is garbage. They're almost sub-40% Corsi.