News Article: Bergevin leaks out interesting information

habsfanatics*

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Holy ****...what is this Reilly hate all of a sudden..for all we know he could have a better career than Galchenyuk..don't count your chickens and look like a fool later.

Rielly is a good player...don't be judging a dman two years after he was drafted..that's nonsense. Did anyone here think two years after he was drafted that McDonagh would arguably be one of the top five dmen in the league?

I think Alex will be better, but that's not etched in stone.

Many teams ended up having Rielly in their top five..and it's not like Trevor didn't like him as well, just not as much as Alex. There may have been a record set for the number of scouts that went out to see him in a playoff game his draft year..so let's not get too critical of Dudley..he was not alone in liking the kid.

Trevor's main issue with Rielly was his skating mechanics, but he liked him too.

Well-done Grant :handclap:. Some short-sighted posts in here, Gally obviously fits a need better and he's off to the earlier start, which is completely expected, but who is/has the better career is far from over. Morgan Rielly will be a game-changer imo, but it's hard to stand out on a team that is as consistently as bad as the Leafs are defensively.
 

habsfanatics*

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I don't see how we could ever have ended up with Grigorenko.

Morgan Rielly is totally impressive IMO.
He possesses a ton of it all.
Just lacking on the physical side but that didn't hamper Brian Leetch or Phil Housley...

We agree for once Rapala :handclap:. Morgan Rielly reminds me a lot of Brian Leetch, unfortunately he's beginning his career on a franchise that looks to be in the same mess they've been in for the last decade.
 

Tim Wallach

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Grant, I wonder if you might shed a little light on the "skating mechanics" issue. I have heard a few scouts reference that and I'm not sure if the concern is that biomechanics are hard to change and therefore the kid can't build the stride he'll need at the NHL level?

Or is it that the mechanics place wear and tear on muscles and joints that are a red flag for long term?
 

rockjngo

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I'm not 100% sure if the OP part on drafting defense over a center.

I recall Bergervin went public saying that its harder trade for a big top center, they are not available so you have to draft them. He mentioned Jonathan Toews and Ryan Getzlaf as examples. I think he was talking about Alex Galchenyuk and Ryan Murray. We knew Nail Yakupov would go #1. RDS said Teovu Teravainen could go #5 and Morgan Reilly could also end up a Hab. Some wanted Filip Forsberg and Mikhail Grigorenko.

Forsberg - wasn't as physical but he will produce
Murray - safest pick instant top 4
Grigorenko - big talented, attitude, lack of desire to play physical
Teravainen - undersized, weak but highly talented
Galchenyuk - big, talented, physical

I think Galchenyuk is the better pick. You can argue about Forsberg but we'll see.
 

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They make a draft ranking like every team..so things are hashed out. The team takes the top player left on the list...unless two players are really close and the second one better fills a team need...then he may be taken instead.

Regional guys have some say, but certainly the crossover scouts' opinions are more weighted.

Usually if a regional scout likes a player..the head scout will see him at some point, quite often with the crossover scout, unless the crossover scout really doesn't like him. Even then Trevor will probably go see the player.

As was stated earlier..it's okay to have different opinions..you don't want a staff of sheep.

Dudley's is an extra voice..a very experienced one. Even Bergy and Mellanby go look at a few prospects. Why not? Duds and Bergy worked in amateur scouting and have good reputations.

thanks, that is what I expected was the case. Was glad to see Dudley stick around when I starting hearing talk of other teams interest in him.
 

Scintillating10

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Bergevin's staff good at finding talent to fill roles. Manny as faceoff specialist, Gonchar steading influence on the blueline, Weise good robost winger. It's another to find skilled talent to put team over the top though. Finding those top players are another thing. So far Vanek and Briere had mixed results.
 

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