Prospect Info: Bedard Topic 2

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Honesetly surprising Bedard isn't a super explosive skater, players with his height and build usually are. But yea he could definitely use just a little more speed, especially when time and space shrinks in the playoffs and teams get away with more and more obstruction

 

[BLKHKhockey]

He was one of our worst skaters this year, IMO. Not only lacking speed, but wasn't strong on his skates and takes wide turns. Like the poster above me stated, it's surprising given his build - he's obviously got muscle.

On the other hand he's still so boyish (even for a teenager), which further speaks to his potential. Very encouraging he's aware he needs to improve his skating as well as his defense.

 

[Kevin Musto]

He was one of our worst skaters this year,

Alright now we're just being silly

 

[ChiHawks10]

He was one of our worst skaters this year, IMO. Not only lacking speed, but wasn't strong on his skates and takes wide turns. Like the poster above me stated, it's surprising given his build - he's obviously got muscle.

On the other hand he's still so boyish (even for a teenager), which further speaks to his potential. Very encouraging he's aware he needs to improve his skating as well as his defense.

 

[CallMeShaft]

His transition stats are elite.

He needs to get faster if he wants to take the next step, but he isn't a bad skater. That's just a terrible hockey take.

 

[Wally1112pac]

He was one of our worst skaters this year, IMO. Not only lacking speed, but wasn't strong on his skates and takes wide turns. Like the poster above me stated, it's surprising given his build - he's obviously got muscle.

You're bang on if this is who you're talking about.

 

[Hawkaholic]

He was one of our worst skaters this year, IMO.

lol, yeah, OK.

 

[BLKHKhockey]

Which forwards with regular playing time are worse skaters than CB? On D, Seth and Vlasic are better.

 

[scorehawks]

Bedard is 18. He is and will be a star. Those old enough to remember Guy Lafleur's first few years should know he struggled. I can recall he was on his butt so much thought he too couldn't skate. We know how that turned out.

Wikipedia: "During his first three seasons, Lafleur struggled to live up to expectations in the league as he posted average statistics—"

 

[Hawkaholic]

Which forwards with regular playing time are worse skaters than CB? On D, Seth and Vlasic are better.

Raddysh, Foligno, Entwhistle, both Johnsons, Kurashev, Anderson, Blackwell, and lol, Vlasic is not a better skater than Bedard.

 

[Chelios]

Raddysh, Foligno, Entwhistle, both Johnsons, Kurashev, Anderson, Blackwell, and lol, Vlasic is not a better skater than Bedard.

Agree with all of those except Vlasic. Vlasic could absolutely beat Bedard in a foot race.

 

[clydesdale line]

Raddysh, Foligno, Entwhistle, both Johnsons, Kurashev, Anderson, Blackwell, and lol, Vlasic is not a better skater than Bedard.

Vlasic is definitely a better skater. Not leaps and bounds better, but he is.

 

[Pez68]

He was one of our worst skaters this year, IMO. Not only lacking speed, but wasn't strong on his skates and takes wide turns. Like the poster above me stated, it's surprising given his build - he's obviously got muscle.

On the other hand he's still so boyish (even for a teenager), which further speaks to his potential. Very encouraging he's aware he needs to improve his skating as well as his defense.

Early candidate for worst post of 2024.

 

[Praetorian Caps]

The first few months he was a Hawk, many here talked about it like it was a forgone conclusion. But just because the guy is an elite talent, it doesn't automatically make him captain material.

And let's not forget the draft. If (fingers crossed) Chicago wins lotto again and get Celebrini he may get and want the C?

 

[Hawkaholic]

Agree with all of those except Vlasic. Vlasic could absolutely beat Bedard in a foot race.

Nah

Top Speed:
Bedard: 22.73mph (73percentile of forwards)
Vlasic: 22.58mph (68percentile of Dmen)

Speed Bursts over 20mph
Bedard: 102 (71percentile of forwards)
Vlasic: 56 (below 50% for Dmen)

So Bedard is not only the quicker straight line skater, he is better on his edges, and at accelerating.

Not saying Vlasic is a bad skater by any means, but Bedard is getting underrated almost, when it comes to his skating.

 

[Pez68]

Nah

Maybe in a straight line full ice race. Maybe. Anything that requires turning and stops/starts and Bedard wins.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Maybe in a straight line full ice race. Maybe. Anything that requires turning and stops/starts and Bedard wins.

Yeah, not even straight line as shown above.

 

[TLEH]

Thats why I was saying I think a lot of the stuff that made Bedard look slow at times had more to do with his shift lengths than necessarily his skating itself.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Just did a review of who has the top straight line speed out of all the Hawks this season, out of curiousity.

1: Seth: 23.18mph
2: Slaggert: 23.08mph
3: Kurashev: 23.06mph
4: AA 22.99mph
5: Bedard 22.73mph
6: Blackwell 22.55mph
7: Vlasic 22.53mph

 

[ChiHawks10]

Nah

Top Speed:
Bedard: 22.73mph (73percentile of forwards)
Vlasic: 22.58mph (68percentile of Dmen)

Speed Bursts over 20mph
Bedard: 102 (71percentile of forwards)
Vlasic: 56 (below 50% for Dmen)

So Bedard is not only the quicker straight line skater, he is better on his edges, and at accelerating.

Not saying Vlasic is a bad skater by any means, but Bedard is getting underrated almost, when it comes to his skating.

Yeah, I think that Vlasic's skating just looks easier/smoother/more effortless, which may be why people think he's a better skater. Bedard is clearly better.

Bedard is a fantastic skater, and I'm not sure how someone can actually say he is bad. It's a terrible take.

 

[Chelios]

Nah

Top Speed:
Bedard: 22.73mph (73percentile of forwards)
Vlasic: 22.58mph (68percentile of Dmen)

Speed Bursts over 20mph
Bedard: 102 (71percentile of forwards)
Vlasic: 56 (below 50% for Dmen)

So Bedard is not only the quicker straight line skater, he is better on his edges, and at accelerating.

Not saying Vlasic is a bad skater by any means, but Bedard is getting underrated almost, when it comes to his skating.

I stand corrected. Interesting. Although part of me thinks that Vlasic is so good positionally and so smooth that he has less instances where he needs to really motor.

 

[Paul Allen]

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Bedard’s skating. It’ll look even better when he finally has talent out there with him opening up some ice.

 

[Pez68]

Just did a review of who has the top straight line speed out of all the Hawks this season, out of curiousity.

1: Seth: 23.18mph
2: Slaggert: 23.08mph
3: Kurashev: 23.06mph
4: AA 22.99mph
5: Bedard 22.73mph
6: Blackwell 22.55mph
7: Vlasic 22.53mph

That seems to match the eye test pretty damn well. I'm assuming we don't have any data on Nazar because he only played a few games?

 

[TLEH]

That seems to match the eye test pretty damn well. I'm assuming we don't have any data on Nazar because he only played a few games?

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics for skaters including skating speed, skating distance, shot speed, shot location, and zone time.

edge.nhl.com

 

[clydesdale line]

Just did a review of who has the top straight line speed out of all the Hawks this season, out of curiousity.

1: Seth: 23.18mph
2: Slaggert: 23.08mph
3: Kurashev: 23.06mph
4: AA 22.99mph
5: Bedard 22.73mph
6: Blackwell 22.55mph
7: Vlasic 22.53mph

That is interesting, especially AA being 4th. Either he's lost a half step or the injury effected his stride this season. Wasn't he over 24 mph last season?