Bears and NFL Talk Thread LIV: Khalil Mack's a Bear!
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I'm convinced that the Bears will just circle the drain with occasional surprise splashes that recede to nothing for as long as the McCaskey's run the show. I'd post a solidly funny Urinatingtree video on the Bears, but that's not remotely terms of service safe.
ChiHawks10
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Land of #1 Overall Picks
If anything goes wrong - we can take your guaranteed money away! Typical Bears.
I especially like the part referring to negative comments about the Bears, coaches and ownership.
I don’t think the Bears have a history of enforcing stuff like this, quite the contrary if you look through history. I get having the protection but this is over the top.
Currently the only pick not signed through the draft or 2nd to last. Not the last 1st rounder, the last ...lol
I especially like the part referring to negative comments about the Bears, coaches and ownership.
I don’t think the Bears have a history of enforcing stuff like this, quite the contrary if you look through history. I get having the protection but this is over the top.
Currently the only pick not signed through the draft or 2nd to last. Not the last 1st rounder, the last ...lol
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Connor BeJesus
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After firing John Fox as the scapegoat last year, Pace somehow managed an extension. Too bad his 1st round picks are all laughers!
Kevin White = BUST
Jock Itch Mitch = TBD
Roquan Smith = Last Remaining Unsigned
Bears record under Ryan Pace, 14-34
Kevin White = BUST
Jock Itch Mitch = TBD
Roquan Smith = Last Remaining Unsigned
Bears record under Ryan Pace, 14-34
Are you ever going to apologize for being 100% wrong about Carmelo Anthony? You laughed when you said Melo would never WAiVE his no trade clause to go to a losing team. Guess what ...
Sources: Melo finalizes Hawks contract buyout
Everyone makes mistakes, including Ryan Pace. You of all people should understand that. Kevin White is a bust. However, we certainly don't know about Trubisky and Smith.
Self awareness is a sign of intelligence.
BK
"Goalie Apologist"
The Bears were the worst coached team in the NFL. This is not even controversial a opinion.
What's interesting is the high powered Texans offense with DeShaun Watson under center went down the crapper soon as he got hurt (same coaching staff, same weapons, same coordinator). Weird how that works. The offense became inept overnight when Watson was lost for the year.
The Bad News Bears under rookie learning on the job Ryan Pace has one thing going for them this year...Pace will have no scapegoats if the Bears suck again this year.
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Blackhawkswincup
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Actually it was over last 3 years when half this board was telling me how good a job Fox was doing and defending him
The guy was bum and some of us pointed that out from moment he signed onto organization
Few of us could imagine that he would make us pine for Lovie Smith but he did just that
Yep if this team puts up a 6-10 season or another lackluster 5-11 season or worse then Pace deserves to be fired. The excuses are running out for the so called 'Genius"
Blackhawkswincup
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Bears ownership/management is only making reputation worse and pushing more fan disinterest in Chicago with this fight with Smith and his agent
The McCaskey Bears continue to be joke as always
The McCaskey Bears continue to be joke as always
BK
"Goalie Apologist"
What the hell are you even talking about?
I agree. Pace was given time to clear out the garbage and draft/sign his team. Now they have to produce. I don't think anyone would argue this.
I don't really remember that many people doing that but you tend exaggerate things. I do recall people giving him some "runway" because he was given a garbage team by Emery and Trestman. People wanted him to implement discipline and hard working culture at Halas Hall but he failed. He was a bad hire and how he operated makes it seem like a cash grab by him.
Nagy seems like the real deal but we won't know anything until the team takes the field during the regular season. This team finally has talent on both sides of the ball at what seems like every position which is not something we have been able to say in a long time. Kind of feels good but we all know it could be a huge let down.
ChiHawks10
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The Bears just checkmated CAA and Roquan Smith. The Bears are in the right if they don't want to pay Roquan for bad behavior off the field. They acquiesced to the helmet hit clause a while ago. CAA looks bad.
Roquan Smith's contract impasse is over a behavior clause — and not just NFL's new helmet contact rule
Roquan Smith's contract impasse is over a behavior clause — and not just NFL's new helmet contact rule
BK
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Not a good look for CAA or Smith. Wonder why the Bears waited so long to release this.
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Connor BeJesus
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Blackhawkswincup
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May I remind you its the Bears releasing this information to Chicago Media so take it with grain of salt
And the Trevathon part doesn't really support Bears or damn Smith and his agents because that was before the new NFL rule/punishment so saying that in past they didn't pursue action on a veteran player doesn't really apply here
Also players on rookie contracts and veterans get very different treatment. Bears going after Guaranteed $ of a veteran FA signing would have looked bad and hurt them going forward
Sorry but we have seen this BS before in which Bears release info to Haugh or Biggs to be used against a player. We saw it with Jeffery as well in recent years and no fan will say the Bears handled Jeffery situation well
I wont be shocked if CAA releases something negative about Bears to "Sources" in coming days to hit back
The fact people are gleefully falling in line with McCaskey's/Phillips/Pace is sadly what we have seen thru years in which the McCaskey's are given benefit of doubt despite history and then we find out "Oh they were POS as reported"
And the Bears have not relented on helmet to helmet issue because they still refuse to put it in writing. No player should ever take the word of an NFL team as gospel
And the Trevathon part doesn't really support Bears or damn Smith and his agents because that was before the new NFL rule/punishment so saying that in past they didn't pursue action on a veteran player doesn't really apply here
Also players on rookie contracts and veterans get very different treatment. Bears going after Guaranteed $ of a veteran FA signing would have looked bad and hurt them going forward
Sorry but we have seen this BS before in which Bears release info to Haugh or Biggs to be used against a player. We saw it with Jeffery as well in recent years and no fan will say the Bears handled Jeffery situation well
I wont be shocked if CAA releases something negative about Bears to "Sources" in coming days to hit back
The fact people are gleefully falling in line with McCaskey's/Phillips/Pace is sadly what we have seen thru years in which the McCaskey's are given benefit of doubt despite history and then we find out "Oh they were POS as reported"
And the Bears have not relented on helmet to helmet issue because they still refuse to put it in writing. No player should ever take the word of an NFL team as gospel
Blackhawkswincup
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I would also point out the Bears were one's who leaked originally the helmet rule being impasse and then watched fans/media turn on them for stance
Now here we are with this leak to portray the Bears as somehow the victim despite Bears being original leak for original reason for contract impasse
If I am Smith and his agents I go on offensive and withdraw from negotiating table and hold press conference in which I condemn the Bears for releasing false information to media and then go on offensive against Bears management/ownership and its poor history
I would point out the low reputation among players around league and fans with regard to the McCaskey ownership group and ask openly if such people are qualified to run a sports franchise. I would point out the continued employment of Ted Phillips , etc , etc
If Bears want to dirty up the field then I am sure Smith and his agent can do just that. We saw Charges pull this shit with Bosa and try to turn fanbase against him and his family/agents
I cant believe in 2018 that fans still give McCaskey/Phillips/Bears any benefit of the doubt
Now here we are with this leak to portray the Bears as somehow the victim despite Bears being original leak for original reason for contract impasse
If I am Smith and his agents I go on offensive and withdraw from negotiating table and hold press conference in which I condemn the Bears for releasing false information to media and then go on offensive against Bears management/ownership and its poor history
I would point out the low reputation among players around league and fans with regard to the McCaskey ownership group and ask openly if such people are qualified to run a sports franchise. I would point out the continued employment of Ted Phillips , etc , etc
If Bears want to dirty up the field then I am sure Smith and his agent can do just that. We saw Charges pull this shit with Bosa and try to turn fanbase against him and his family/agents
I cant believe in 2018 that fans still give McCaskey/Phillips/Bears any benefit of the doubt
Blackhawkswincup
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And now we have it out there that Bears claims and leak are BS as always
Bears are using local media for leaks against kid and he and his agents are now going national with there side in this tit for tat fight
Bears are using local media for leaks against kid and he and his agents are now going national with there side in this tit for tat fight
I don't know when the Bears relented on the helmet to helmet issue, but I believe they are being truthful about off the field issues impacting guarantees as the sticking point.
CAA is using Roquan Smith and the Bears as the guinea pig vs. NFL. The NFLPA is so weak, the player's agents end up creating precedents. Roquan Smith is an Economics major. He's a smart kid. He might be doing this for the rookies who come after.
I believe CAA and Roquan's demand is a bit unreasonable, but I kind of understand what they are trying to do. NFL guarantees are the weakest of the 5 major team sports. They are doing the job of the NFLPA.
I hope this ends soon. No one's 100% villain in most negotiations. There's usually rational arguments from both sides. In this situation, I side with the Bears ... but I understand Roquan's's stance.
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