Oan
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Which one is better? Barzal currently at 70 pts, Matthews had 69 pts total.
Switch goalies and Leafs don't make the playoffs and Isles do.Matthews helped his team make the playoffs.
Matthews helped his team make the playoffs.
You need to stop making excuses. Leafs were The LAST place team in the nhl the year Matthews was drafted. He played on a line with 2 other rookies and led them to the playoffs, on a team with 7 other rookies (Hyman, brown, Marner, carrick, Zaitsev, nylander, Soshnkkov) he was the one other teams focused on. If all you’re looking at are points than you truly don’t understand how monumental what Matthews actually did.Switch goalies and Leafs don't make the playoffs and Isles do.
Scoring is up this year so you can't directly compare totals. Matthews finished 20th in scoring, and 30th in PPG among those who played at least 40 games, while Barzal is currently tied for 17th in points, and 21st in PPG. So edge Barzal, but not by as much. Matthews was also the better goalscorer and his inordinate lack of 2nd assists may have been an anomaly that made his totals underrate his total offensive contributions. He was also the better player away from the puck. I think it's close but I would give a slight edge to Matthews.
Wow, that Freddy Andersen, must be the best goalie in the league with praise like this.Switch goalies and Leafs don't make the playoffs and Isles do.
He is really good at the very least. Guy plays behind a team that lets up among the most shots in the league in combination with among most starts in the league (if not the most??) Meaning he faces most shots out of any goalie and he still has very respectible numbers, now i havent dug deeper to the qualiry of shots he is facing and such but im sure that he is a very good goalie and immensly valuable to the leafs.Wow, that Freddy Andersen, must be the best goalie in the league with praise like this.
Mathews because I value goals much higher. Say 2pts a goal, 1pt for a primary, .5 for secondary. I have never liked assists being part of scoring. Guys can have 100pts and win the scoring title with 50 secondaries, 30 primaries, and 20 goals. That's just not impressive to me. When goalies can get secondary assists and a half points that just shows that it's not always a skilled situation. So 40 goals for an 18 year old kid on a terrible team with below-average linemates is a much more impressive situation then barzel playing with decent linemates and racking up assists.
Which one is better? Barzal currently at 70 pts, Matthews had 69 pts total.
He is, but to say the only reason we're making the playoffs is because of him is just wrong.He is really good at the very least. Guy plays behind a team that lets up among the most shots in the league in combination with among most starts in the league (if not the most??) Meaning he faces most shots out of any goalie and he still has very respectible numbers, now i havent dug deeper to the qualiry of shots he is facing and such but im sure that he is a very good goalie and immensly valuable to the leafs.
I have seen that guy save alot of sure goals.
Barzal was drafted a year before Matthews..