Barzal/Provorov/Werenski vs Keller/McAvoy/Sergachev

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

2015 draft vs 2016 draft

Which Trio do you take?

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[Hockeyisl1fe]

2015 quite easily.

 

[FlyTimmo]

2015s

 

[Apotheosis]

Assuming Barzal is the real deal, this is 2015 quite easily.

 

[FinnishCoyote]

Keller >= Barzal
McAvoy < Werenski
Serg < Provorov

Yeah, 2015 quite easily

 

[pheasant]

Provarov makes 2015 the easier choice. But I really believe in Keller. So I went with 2016.

 

[wintersej]

I think Keller and Barzal are in the same range. I think Provorov, Werenski and McAvoy are in the same range. Think Sergachev is probably a small step below. I think its 2015. Its close, but its clear.

Of course, a year from now that could all change and this thread could look silly.

 

[Morgs]

Barzal < Keller
Werenski > McAvoy
Provorov > Sergachev

 

[Juxtaposer]

Keller is the best of the bunch but the 2015s are better.

 

[HyPnOtiK]

Provorov

Werenski

Keller
McAvoy

Barzal
Serg

2015 easy​

 

[HyPnOtiK]

Keller is the best of the bunch but the 2015s are better.

Ha

 

[Panthaz89]

I'd actually take 2016.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Provorov

Werenski

Keller
McAvoy

Barzal
Serg

2015 easy​

It is difficult to compare forwards to defenseman but, based on what I have seen I'd rank them like:

Provorov
Werenski/Keller

McAvoy
Sergachev
Barzal

The bottom 3 are all very close.

Still 2015.

 

[Halla]

2016. they havent had as much time to prove themselves but i see it as

Werenski>>Sergachev
McAvoy>Provorov
Keller>>Barzal

 

[Juxtaposer]

Ha

Clayton Keller is 19 years old and almost a PPG on quite literally the worst team in the history of the NHL. But yeah, Provorov or whoever is better.

 

[Sasso09]

It is difficult to compare forwards to defenseman but, based on what I have seen I'd rank them like:

Provorov
Werenski/Keller

McAvoy
Sergachev
Barzal

The bottom 3 are all very close.

Still 2015.

I think you're giving Keller wayyyy too much credit to be putting him with Werenski based on such a small sample size... I say that even with Keller being my favorite prospect in the last 5 years. and you have Barzal too low

 

[Sasso09]

Clayton Keller is 19 years old and almost PPG on quite literally the worst team in the history of the NHL. But yeah, Provorov or whoever is better.

Provorov is easily better, not even a debate. Shayne Gostisbehere is over a PPG as a defenseman, I guess hes better than Provorov and Keller too?

Keller has played 20 games, Provorov was a #1d at 19 years old and is arguably a top 15 defenseman in the league at 20 years old. pump the brakes.

 

[Sasso09]

2016. they havent had as much time to prove themselves but i see it as

Werenski>>Sergachev
McAvoy>Provorov
Keller>>Barzal

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Provorov is easily better, not even a debate. Shayne Gostisbehere is over a PPG as a defenseman, I guess hes better than Provorov and Keller too?

Keller has played 20 games, Provorov was a #1d at 19 years old and is arguably a top 15 defenseman in the league at 20 years old. pump the brakes.

why don't you pump the brakes?

 

[tony d]

Give me 2015 on this 1.

 

[wintersej]

I mean, you have to be projecting here when comparing 2016 to 2015. 2016 class has a very small sample size. I don't think there is a great argument for saying that McAvoy > Provorov right now.

But, 18 games into his career McAvoy is doing the same thing Provorov did last year and securing himself as his teams #1D at 19 years old.

Both project to be 50+ point physical 2 way #1D. I don't think you can really say anything beyond Provorov == McAvoy at this point in their careers without talking out of your ass.

 

[HyPnOtiK]

[mod]

Yes Provorov was a #1d last year

Yes Provorov is very debatable as top 15 this year. He's 5th in E'S points, elite defensively And plays a lot of very tough minutes.

 

[135ace]

Keller >= Barzal
McAvoy < Werenski
Serg < Provorov

Yeah, 2015 quite easily

This, although Barzal has been very impressive. But so has Keller (and he plays on the Coyotes so...)

 

[Juxtaposer]

Provorov is easily better, not even a debate. Shayne Gostisbehere is over a PPG as a defenseman, I guess hes better than Provorov and Keller too?

Keller has played 20 games, Provorov was a #1d at 19 years old and is arguably a top 15 defenseman in the league at 20 years old. pump the brakes.

Yeah, because it’s definitely the same to use points to evaluate a forward as it is to use points to evaluate a defenseman.

Provorov is not a #1D.

 

[dmj616]

Barzal has 23 points in his last 18 games and is averaging only about 16:30 a game this year. He looks fantastic out there, I think he has been a bit undervalued thus far in this thread.