Ballon d'Or 30-man shortlist. Who should win?

Who should win?

  • Kylian Mbappé

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mohamed Salah

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sergio Aguero

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Paul Pogba

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sergio Ramos

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ivan Rakitic

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jan Oblak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Neymar Jr

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Marcelo

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sadio Mané

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mario Mandzukic

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hugo Lloris

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Isco

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Harry Kane

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Alisson Becker

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Diego Godin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Thibaut Courtois

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Roberto Firmino

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Karim Benzema

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Edinson Cavani

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .

Evilo

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Mar 17, 2002
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Oh your intentions are always crystal clear. And can't meet their goals.

Hopefully you continue to think you're smart. It's good for the rest of us that you try to explain and teach us.
 

les Habs

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Sep 21, 2005
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In such large databases mistakes are not uncommon regardless of the platform. The point is that wikipedia is not a source, and transfermarkt absolutely is better to reference. Especially when you consider a lot of what is on wikipedia in terms of data comes from transfermarkt, except it's being copied over by a random user which increases the chance of introducing error.

Anyway, if your focus is on one incident that you can't quite recall and that is your basis for saying transfermarkt is as unreliable as wikipedia, that's fine. The message is the same and that's your choice.

While that may be true, it's the only mistake I recall seeing. What's more we're not talking a goal or an assist, but it was multiple goals. I've never come across such an instance using Wikipedia either, granted I don't use it much. So for me Transfermarkt isn't better to reference much less absolutely so. As for how much data to Transfermarkt comes from Wikipedia, I wouldn't know and I'd be curious how you would. Yes, I know they cite the sources on there, but in the two cases mentioned in this thread I'm not seeing Transfermarkt being cited for either player's stats when I look at their respective Wikipedia entries.

I don't recall the exact specifics of who the player was, but it happened and Transfermarkt was well off. I'm pretty sure it was either over a drafted player or a player I won't mention. Either way the goal total was off by multiple goals. The way I know was when the player's totals were posted I immediate thought "that seems off" and checked them. They were notably off and Transfermarkt was cited. I recall also checking another player or two after that and same thing with one of them.
 

YNWA14

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Dec 29, 2010
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While that may be true, it's the only mistake I recall seeing. What's more we're not talking a goal or an assist, but it was multiple goals. I've never come across such an instance using Wikipedia either, granted I don't use it much. So for me Transfermarkt isn't better to reference much less absolutely so. As for how much data to Transfermarkt comes from Wikipedia, I wouldn't know and I'd be curious how you would. Yes, I know they cite the sources on there, but in the two cases mentioned in this thread I'm not seeing Transfermarkt being cited for either player's stats when I look at their respective Wikipedia entries.

Interestingly I could have sworn the reference was there in the English version but I don't see it anymore. The French version still has the footnote that links to transfermarkt: Patrick Vieira — Wikipédia

But again, wikipedia doesn't actually track the stats, it's just a place for people to compile information from other sites/sources.
 

les Habs

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But again, wikipedia doesn't actually track the stats, it's just a place for people to compile information from other sites/sources.

Yes, I'm aware of how Wikipedia works thank you. And by getting information from other sources and citing said sources they themselves then become a source.
 

Il Mediano

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... after reading the last few pages:


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